Thanks much. It was bad ground. 

Michael E. Esh


On Apr 27, 2019, at 2:36 PM, fmiser via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>> Michael wrote:
> 
>> The most recent acquisition (84 300D) has an glow plug relay
>> problem. I have replaced faulty plugs, tested wires for
>> continuity, and replaced the relay with two different known
>> good relays from operating vehicles.  I cannot get the relay
>> to kick in.  I’m getting 12 volt power to the relay and to
>> both sides of the fuse.
> 
> There are two power sources at the glow plug relay - the big
> wire going to the strip fuse and the trigger power for the
> relay coil.  What you describe suggests you only tested the
> big wire - but it's not clear.
> 
> There is wire red with a white stripe that is in the little
> connector on top of the relay and connects to terminal 15 on
> the relay.  This should have power anytime the key is on.
> It's power comes from fuse #15.
> 
>> The odd thing is, when I test the glow plug posts on the
>> relay with my analog tester it shows they each have voltage
>> when grounding to the engine. This voltage is present at all
>> times.
> 
> Which post is this?  The 5 terminals under the big connector
> on top of the relay?  The big one with a nut securing the
> wire?  I'm confused.
> 
>> The weird part is that when I run a test wire from
>> the glow plug relay posts to engine ground I get no
>> reaction! No juice is flowing. Could there be a problem with
>> the wire(s) that connect to the ignition circuit?
> 
> I'm not sure what you have done - but here is the process I
> would use.
> 
> Using a voltmeter with one lead on ground, use the other lead
> on the screw on the inboard (away from the fender) end of the
> strip fuse.  This is the "down stream" side of the fuse.  If
> there is 12 VDC here, then turn on the key and listen/feel for
> the relay to click AND measure at the screw again.  Expect to
> see about 9 VDC on the screw.  If there is more than about 10
> VDC, and/or the relay doesn't click, then the supply is okay,
> but it's not connecting to the glow plugs.  If there is less
> than about 8 VDC I would suspect either the battery is bad or
> the fuse has failed.
> 
> If the relay did NOT click, next measure the voltage at the
> terminal with the red wire at the small connector (contact
> #15)  This should have 12 VDC anytime the key is on.  If not,
> first check fuse #15.
> 
> Then I would open the small connector and jumper from the
> strip fuse screw to the red wire at terminal 15.  You should
> hear/feel the relay click.  If not, the ground wire has a
> problem or the relay is bad.
> 
> Then I would use my glow plug tester rig that uses an old +-30
> amp ammeter to test each glow plug.
> 
> If there is something I didn't explain well, let me know and
> I'll have another go at it.
> 
> 
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