I've seen comercials on TV pushing ethenol - suggesting if everyone used it there would not be a fuel shortage,

Is that accurate? Isn't 15% the max % of ethenol that can be used on autos realistically?

Didn't I read on this list someone say Ethenol is a negative return? i.e., it takes more than a gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of ethenol?

Sincerely,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron


Two more 50-100 million gallon per year refineries were announced today, in
the same small town.  There are refineries popping up at the rate of
several a month.  It is just that they are making ethanol or biod.

We do need some new oil refineries.

At 04:58 PM 4/6/2006, you wrote:
You;re right - it's been close to 30 years since a new refinery came on
line - 1978 IIRC....

I'd like to see some new refineries with modern technology built (and some
nuclear power stations) but I fear we'll let the foreigners provide our oil for the foreseeable future. I read a few years ago about the cost to build something as innocuous as a warehouse built on land in Ca. already owned by
a company needed for expansion (and more jobs) - after spending over $1
million in fees and studies over a 10 year period, the company gave up.
Then they moved the whole operation to Idaho who welcomed them with open
arms.

A refinery doesn't have a chance --

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel info from chevron


> David Brodbeck wrote:
>> Christopher McCann wrote:
>>> "ULSD has almost NO sulfur but better lubricity than than ANY
>>> #1 diesel and than MOST #2."
>>>
>>>   Becuase a lubricity agent is added, I assume...
>
> I don't believe any lubricity additive is necessary (even for use with
> fuel lubricated distributor type pumps) IF they put back all they took
> out when removing the sulfur (or they could modify the blend), but that
> can't easily be done economically in many of the OLD facilities that
> exist in the US. I don't think there has been a NEW refinery built in
> the US in 25-30 years. The Europeans have been doing it for years. > Their
> facilities are far more modern than ours I'm told.
>
> Marshall
> --
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> 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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