I have never heard of these hybrid water heaters before so I looked into them. 
I like the idea but the problem here is our water heater is actually in its own 
closet inside the house. The cold air it would vent in the winter would be a 
problem unless I installed some sort of vent to vent it into the attic space. 
In the summer it would be great. Hmm. 

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> On Dec 30, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The infrastructure is already 12+ years old and hasn’t been maintained. I 
> would have to pretty much start from scratch.
> 
> I want hot water without hassle. No:
> 
> Penetrations in my roof
> Circulation pumps
> Having to drain down should freezing temperatures occur
> Potential for damage in the event of a hurricane
> 
> I’ll go with my hybrid heat pump water heater and get the free cooling for 
> the garage. Do the math:
> 
> Energy guide for standard 50 gallon electric heater, roughly $500:
> 
> <035505002440.pdf>
> 
> http://pdf.lowes.com/energyguides/035505002440.pdf
> 
> 
> Energy guide for hybrid (heat pump) 50 gallon electric heater, roughly $1200:
> <035505003348.pdf>
> 
> http://pdf.lowes.com/energyguides/035505003348.pdf
> 
> Mitch can put his pencil to paper and come up with the details if he’s so 
> inclined, as he’s definitely good at that sort of thing, but the rough 
> numbers would suggest that the payback is far better on the hybrid heater. 
> And it even has better recovery.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On December 30, 2019 at 4:48 PM Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So what's wrong with installing a properly designed solar hot water heater?
>>> Isn't the plumbing infrastructure already in place?
>> 
>> Back around 1980, I saw plans in Popular Science for a very cheap solar 
>> heater. 
>> It was, IIRC, a 100' coil of black poly pipe mounted to a black painted 
>> marine plywood box and affixed on the roof. 
>> The same black poly pipe that transports potable water from my well to my 
>> house. 
>> It was to be plumbed between the water supply and the water heater to 
>> preheat the input to the heater. 
>> No need to drain it and bypass it for the winter in Pinellas. 
>> And it sounds like Dan's already got the plumbing loop to the roof.
>> 
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