Karl, I've read several news articles that indicate that the virus has mutated 
and has weakened; although the number of cases is rising, those who are 
hospitalized are less severe and more likely to survive than before.  Does your 
experience match that?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 15, 2020 9:44:04 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>:

> Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is so 
> important. If you don't know which citizens are "guilty", and who they have 
> been associating with, it is hard to protect the "innocent" (uninfected) from 
> disruptive containment policies. The only sensible path forward is a 
> containment strategy focused on hard quantitative testing goals (e.g. 
> increase testing until achieving below 5% positive results), sensible 
> measures like masking (Clay's doc is probably wrong about them not working), 
> and tracing as many contacts as possible and isolating them for two weeks 
> (over 15 minutes at close range continuous without masking). Then everybody 
> else can go about their business. Otherwise, expect more chaos.
> 
> On 7/15/2020 5:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hmmm, used to be that a citizen was considered to be innocent until proven
>> guilty....
>> -------------
>> Max (Give Me Liberty or Give Me Wuhan Red Death!)
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You are presumed to be sick until proven otherwise, 14 days later.
>>> "I don't want to go on the cart, I'm not dead yet!"
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:39:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Quarantine laws are still in the books in all states I think.  You can
>>>>> be restricted to your home if you have an infectious disease by force.
>>>>> Completely Constitutional.
>>>> But here they are forcing visitors to stay home without knowing whether
>>>> they have an infectious disease or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Quarantine laws say the sick have to stay home. In this pandemic, the
>>>> healthy are being forced to stay home.
>>>> 
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