That's my experience too.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC

As far as I know the units are usually replaced at the same time.

On 9/2/2020 6:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> Your existing air handler coil may not be compatible with R410a, which runs 
> at higher pressures.
>
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>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 7:41 PM
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>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
>>
>> This is a 15 year old simple R22 unit. If the compressor is bad I am not 
>> sure it
>> would be cost effective for them to try and replace that rather than just
>> replacing the whole unit. But as long as it works I don’t really care
>>
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>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> Sounds like the repair guts didn't really troubleshoot so the fix will take
>> several return trips until they finally replace the right part(s).
>>> Often, the same capacitor (dual unit) supports the fan and compressor and
>> capacitors do fail.  Fan motor failure is not unusual after, maybe, 10 years 
>> but
>> the compressor should start up anyway as soon as it sees 24v on the "Y" wire
>> (unless it's in timeout, typical for 5 min after shutdown).
>>> Most units have low and high pressure cutout switches (a possible problem
>> source too).  The high pressure cutout is immediate but the compressor and
>> fan should run for a couple minutes before they shut down for low pressure.
>>> If the compressor is bad the fix is a difficult and costly but less than 
>>> replacing
>> the whole condenser.
>>> The old (on or off) style units are pretty simple and most parts are generic
>> except the control board.  But there are newer inverter (variable speed) and
>> dual speed types that have unique parts and designs.
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>>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2020 5:26 PM
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>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] The rental house AC
>>>>
>>>> They said they were ordering a new one from Trane. Hopefully that is
>>>> what happens. I’m still wondering if the fan quit working and it
>>>> burned up the compressor. You would think they would habe checked
>>>> that because it’s not like compressor kicks on then shuts off later
>>>> if pressure gets too high. It just does not kick on at all.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> Make sure they replace it with a real fan and not a cheapo "rescue" 
>>>>> motor.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was away once and the fan motor went out (this is the condenser
>>>>> cooling
>>>> fan) and the guy came and put in a new one, was like $500, my wife paid
>> him.
>>>> Fan goes out again less than a year later, I call the guy, he comes
>>>> out and finds a rescue motor instead of the real deal.  So I tell him
>>>> we paid like $500 for this, why is it a substandard unit?  He hems
>>>> and haws and tells me he can put in the right motor but he'll have to
>>>> charge me $75 for a visit. I tell him how about you do what your guy
>>>> was supposed to have done, and you charged us for, and I won't see
>>>> you in court.  He got all pissy but put in the right motor.  His
>>>> wife, who ran the books, called me 2-3 times wanting the $75 and I told her
>> to bugger off, she finally stopped calling.
>>>>> Turns out his guy was doing this to everyone, billing for the real
>>>>> motor but
>>>> putting in a cheapo and pocketing the cash.  He got fired but the
>>>> business owner was still trying to charge me for his guy's fraud,
>>>> probably everyone else too, to get a little back on what he was screwed out
>> of.  Go figure.
>>>>> --FT
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/2/20 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> Inside unit comes on but outside unit doesn’t. When it’s turned on
>>>>>> you hear
>>>> a semi loud click. That sound was the contactor pulling in. Put in a
>>>> service request with the warranty people. They came out today. Fan
>>>> was bad, ordering a new one. I guess if the fan is bad it prevents
>>>> the unit from kicking on so it doesn’t burn up the compressor?
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