“Js”? -D
> On Feb 17, 2021, at 7:23 PM, greg via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > My suspicion is that the "plan" is to use solar/wind in lieu of fossil > backup, but that the fossil backup could not come online because of the > freeze. If the fossil fuel plants had been running, they would not have > frozen. > > My guess is that the media and the Js are probably lying that the fossil > fuel was mainly to blame for the TX power outages. Guessing they are lying > is the safest bet, based on their past performance. > > Greg > >> So the reporting now is that pipes moving gas have frozen up, meters and >> sensors and such have frozen up, and all that mitigates against >> producing electrons at nukes and fossil PPs. None of that makes sense to >> me. I can see where not having interconnections (which was the issue >> like 10yr ago when the wind died on NYDay and all the wind machines in >> West Texas shut down in a few minutes) limit pulling in power but I >> don't get how cold weather (and not "winterizing") cuts down on base >> load and peaking plants not working. Makes no sense to me. >> >> Wind at 20% is quite a bit, esp on really cold days when the demand is >> as high as in hot days in the summer. I don't know if there was a >> problem spinning up plants, or lack of fuel supply, or what, but the >> cold being a factor in delivering fuel or operating fossil or nuke >> plants is kinda strange. >> >> --FT >> >> On 2/17/21 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>> I checked with a buddy in the industry this morning, and he said that >>> Texan’s power woes are of their own doing, and have little to nothing >>> to do with wind turbines, which he said consist of less than 20% of >>> their total grid output on a windy day. >>> >>> He said that Texas has been a bit “uppity†about being able to >>> produce large amounts of power for their own consumption, and as a >>> result have done little to improve or increase their interconnectivity >>> with the national grid. As a result, their ability to import power is >>> severely limited, resulting in the current (no pun intended) situation. >>> Their generating capacity has been hobbled by the weather, and they >>> don’t have big enough pipes to bring enough additional power in to >>> offset the loss in generating capacity. >>> >>> While he didn’t say it, the implication was that there are going to be >>> a lot of people in the business playing the “I told you so†card >>> with them in the future… >>> >>> -D >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2021, at 3:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They pretend to listen during the election >campaign but so soon as >>>>> they are elected they do >whatever they think they want to without any >>>>> real >consideration of what we want. >>>> Close. The politicians do whatever they are paid to do by their true >>>> constituents, the lobbiests. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> <http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>> >> -- >> --FT >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> <http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > <http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
