Billions of government support dollars have been thrown at solar, wind, and
other alternate energy systems. Those government free money dollars
produced more solar farms, wind farms, and programs to build more. However,
each system to date has a fatal flaw. That flaw being, the wind doesn't
always blow the same speed, the sun doesn't always shine at night or in ice
storms, and the energy produced has no way to be stored to be used "on
demand" after it is produced... There are no huge city sized batteries to
plug your Prius into.
Add to that, the transmission systems for power are old, and tired, and
have not been updated or maintained. At current capacity, they are
routinely at or near overloaded.
Vulnerable, is the word that comes to mind. So, if you really want an
"electric only utopia" start building the support structure that will
support it. Or, learn to like fossil fuels.
I know, reality bites...

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 4:40 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the
> infrastructure to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to
> envision just doesn’t exist and probably never will.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars
> are electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer electronic/electrical
> devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind
> of demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to
> adequate;'fill the need?
> >
> > tia,
> > Larry
> > 06 S350......
> >
> > On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> >> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly
> and shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the
> collapse of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making enough
> money, in spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.
> Corporate stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought
> everyone else on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail
> until the Feds stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the
> grossly underfunded AmTrack instead.
> >>
> >> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated
> like the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and
> the rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like
> highways).  Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the
> 1980s, directly subsidizing their competition.
> >>
> >> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century
> Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and maintained
> by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned less the 20
> miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early teens.
> >>
> >> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west of
> the Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were
> going from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by private
> companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, and in
> those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle being
> shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies serving
> smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of the big
> lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through Chicago.  Take a
> look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe me.
> >>
> >> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit
> my niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years
> longer than we could in a car.
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