You just can't buy quality anymore huh? ;) I had an old Farmall tractor that I always have to remember to park in gear, you could turn it over so easy the wind on the fan blades would crank it and it'd be sitting there idling when I came home. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 14:35:03 -0400 From: "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Nearly dead 87 300D battery/neat start To: <Mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Abt 3 times last weekend, my 87 300D starter and engine turned VERY slowly for ~1 rev and stopped as I held key in start position for another ~3 seconds with starter and engine stopped. The instant I released key, engine did a very neat thing - started from a non-rotating condition. After lunch Mon, 'had to jump it; immediately installed Diehard 805 CCA. Old bat was only 6 1/2 yrs old. Wilton __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 08 02:56:54 2006 Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.72]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FoAha-0003uP-Hu for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:56:54 +0000 Received: from dialup-4.224.39.77.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.39.77]) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FoAhX-0000Io-00 for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:56:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:54:50 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List <Mercedes@okiebenz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM 603 no start X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <Mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:56:54 -0000 If the shutoff lever is up, the shutoff isn't the problem. Check the condition of the suction side fuel lines, especially the short ones on the fuel thermostat -- if cracked and wet with fuel, they are leaking and you are pulling air into the IP and it won't deliver fuel or start. Disconnect the pump return line from the main return and verify that you have sufficient fuel coming out -- the classic fuel problem on the 60x engines is to get a slug of air in the IP and have them refuse to start. It can take a couple battery charges to get them going again, and much longer if you have leaks on the suction side. You can "cheat" by temporarily hooking up a gravity feed system to the suction of the lift pump on the side of the IP so that you KNOW you have fuel supply to the lift pump, then crack the bolt on the main filter and pump till it no longer blows bubbles. You should then be pressurizing the IP, and need to crack all six injeciton lines, pump until the return shows no bubbles and the IP lines have all the air bleed out, and it will start. A bitch with no hand pump. However, if you CAN rig up a 20 psi or so pump to the suction line on the lift pump, it will blow through and you can bleed out the IP that way. Peter
