When you petition the HOA, try to think about something that might be important 
to them, and that you are OK with or maybe even want yourself, and then omit it 
from your plans. The hope is they will focus on that, you can acquiesce, and 
they will be happy.


On Mon, May 29, 2023, at 13:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> It costs us around $350/year, which in the grand scheme of things is 
> pocket change. That and I’ve been assured by neighbors who are in the 
> know and not members that the HOA pays little mind to our street 
> because of the lack of members and the age/area. That said, it’s not a 
> bad neighborhood or run down. With a couple exceptions, all of the 
> homes are well cared for and in good condition.
>
> My only concern will be when we decide to migrate permanently we will 
> be putting an addition on the house and likely expanding the garage. 
> Our lot is well over 1/2 acre, so that’s no big deal. The City is real 
> easy to work with on this sort of thing, especially if we’re adding an 
> ADU (accessory dwelling unit) which we would be in the garage. However, 
> we have to get the plans approved by the HOA, which I see no reason why 
> they would care, but…
>
> We’ll see.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 29, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Very cool. Yeah, if you can get out of the HOA that would save some money. I 
>> guess it depends on how long you plan to own it for the math to work or not.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: May 29, 2023 12:21 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car in AZ!
>> 
>> Three car+ garage that shields a rather large area where I could park cars 
>> out of sight. Next door neighbors might not like it, but I don’t think 
>> they’re in the HOA, so they can’t complain.
>> 
>> Without getting into details, my HOA was voluntary at one time, so not every 
>> property in the neighborhood are members. As a result the HOA itself doesn’t 
>> pay a lot of attention to our neighborhood as we’re the “old section”. They 
>> tend to ignore us.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm.
>>> Inquiring minds and all...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: May 29, 2023 12:12 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car in AZ!
>>> 
>>> HOA exists but there is space available outside of their area of influence.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On May 29, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HOA no longer exists?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> Sent: May 29, 2023 11:40 AM
>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Kleb Car in AZ!
>>>> 
>>>> Guess maybe I should start thinking about an Okie Acres West?
>>>> 
>>>> https://flagstaff.craigslist.org/cto/d/flagstaff-1983-mercedes-benz-500-se/7626510960.html
>>>> 
>>>> -D
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