Don’t knock it, they worked! I “knew” a guy who used one to get HBO when they used point-to-point for signal distribution. I think that was in the early 80s.
-D > On Mar 20, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Pringles cantennas! > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Mar 20, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> 3000 feet is a long way, especially in Maine with all the trees. I suppose >> if I put a 100' tower at each end... >> >> If either I or my cousin on the other side of the river get internet while >> the other does not we'll rig up some kind of point to point solution. >> Unfortunately its otherwise not practical... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:49:59 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Any options for possible point-to-point connections? Know adjacent >> landowners who might have an existing connection? >> >> Ubiquiti makes a number of affordable and easy to configure point-to-point >> solutions that can go miles. I’ve used their stuff and it’s awesome. >> >> Just trying to think out of the box… >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm fighting at the great northern estate to get internet service. Spectrum >>> is the local cable provider but they end 3,000 feet in any direction. There >>> are about a dozen homes in our general neighborhood they don't service, >>> including us. >>> >>> Last year I could get T-Mobile home internet but this year they won't let >>> me, I guess too many people signed up. >>> >>> Our last 2 options are Starlink or Hughesnet. Starlink is (much) more >>> expensive but seems like it would support my work from home Zoom lifestyle >>> better. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 10:57:15 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via >>> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Our WiFI guys are struggling with a cellular issue we have at a local >>> community center that is heavily used. They need dedicated connections for >>> POS terminals so they can sell tickets at the venue. Cellular service is >>> lousy, Verizon knows it, but has no plans on adding any cells nearlby in >>> the near future. Add to this the construction of the venue is concrete and >>> steel, so it resembles a giant Faraday cage, too. >>> >>> They provided a “Femtocell”, which is like a commercial version of a MiFi >>> or cellualr hotspot. It works great, costs a lot of money, but has yet to >>> be proven. The biggest concern because it’s a vendor device and not a >>> County device is that we can’t control traffic on it, that is, we can't >>> lock it down to just serve the POS terminals, it’s all (customers) or >>> nothing. >>> >>> Wireless communication is a wonderful thing, but can be difficult in >>> practice. >>> >>> -D >>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It wouldn't be all that hard to make the store into a Faraday cage that >>>> effectively blocks cell signal. A little would still sneak in through the >>>> doors and maybe if they didn't bother to coat the glass. >>>> >>>> Back in 2001 the company I worked for moved into a new building. They had >>>> specifically made the inside of the building cell dead. It was >>>> astonishingly effective, IIRC even radios didn't receive outside signals. >>>> The idea was to keep you off your phone so you would do work. >>>> >>>> Of course everybody hated it. The sales people especially declared that it >>>> cost something like 30% of their productivity because they were tied to >>>> their desk phone. This was in the days before laptops and WIFI. >>>> >>>> Pretty quick the building had a series of cell repeaters (at great >>>> expense) to provide service inside... >>>> >>>> -Curt >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 09:44:07 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via >>>>> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Easy. Your WiFi is constantly “pinging”, looking for available WiFi >>>> connections. WalMart, using a standard WiFi access point, “sees” your >>>> phone, grabs the MAC address and then “follows” you through the store. >>>> Their coverage is quite extensive and granular from the standpoint of they >>>> can see what shelf section you’re standing in front of while trying to >>>> find that elusive BBQ sauce you saw here last time. They know how long you >>>> lingered there and where you came from in the store before looking at BBQ >>>> sauce. >>>> >>>> They’ll use that data when you checkout as well, as they can track your >>>> “anonymous” phone to a POS. Pair that with the debit card number you used >>>> and now they’ve got even more information on you. >>>> >>>> This infographic on geolocation is not exactly what I'm describing, but it >>>> gives you an idea of how much information is being gleaned from your >>>> personal devices: >>>> >>>> <https://fpf.org/blog/understanding-the-world-of-geolocation-data/> >>>> [Top-Left-FPF-Infographic-e1592584283806.png] >>>> Understanding the "World of Geolocation Data" - Future of Privacy >>>> Forum<https://fpf.org/blog/understanding-the-world-of-geolocation-data/> >>>> fpf.org<https://fpf.org/blog/understanding-the-world-of-geolocation-data/> >>>> >>>> And here’s one from a retail industry vendor on customer tracking: >>>> >>>> https://www.storetech.com/resources/how-does-customer-tracking-technology-work-in-offline-retail-stores >>>> >>>> As an aside, and I have nothing to substantiate this, but I believe that >>>> Walmart also “floods” the cellular bands in their stores to force you to >>>> their sanctioned WiFi. This is well within the realm of current >>>> technology. I have noticed that my cell signal drops signficantly when I’m >>>> in a Walmart. Sure, part of that is no doubt due to the structure, but >>>> I’ve seen it in three stores now, and one in particular is concerning as >>>> there’s an active cell site right next door. When I walk in I’ve got five >>>> bars, as soon as I move into the store my coverage drops to one bar. I see >>>> similar but less significant drops in the other stores I’ve checked this >>>> out in. It just seems too coincidental. >>>> >>>> Call me paranoid, but I know from direct experience how aggressive Walmart >>>> is about collecting customer data. I’m not singling them out by any means, >>>> as plenty of other retailers do this, too. >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> How can they do anything with WiFi or Bluetooth unless you click to allow >>>> on your phone? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 4:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> There are a couple of things I do to express my displeasure about this: >>>> >>>> 1.) I use a 3x5 card for a list. When I check out, I fold it in half and >>>> place it over the camera on the top of the monitor. This throws the motion >>>> detection off, and it also prevents recording me or my face. >>>> >>>> 2.) I never use debit when I pay, I always run my card as a credit card >>>> transaction. Why? The merchant fees are higher if you run your card as a >>>> credit card rather than a debit. >>>> >>>> I also turn off my phone Wi-Fi and Bluetooth whenever I go into a Wally >>>> World. They’re really aggressive about collecting data on you as you move >>>> through the store. I’m not giving it to them freely. >>>> >>>> FU, Dead Sam! >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2024, at 9:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Aldis. I prefer the shopping experience at Lidl but they don't have self >>>> checkout. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:54 PM Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I love the self checkout at Aldos. Sure beats the endless lines. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:48 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've stopped checking out my own groceries, even if it means I have to >>>> wait longer. I hate how they record me and treat me like a criminal. >>>> >>>> Apparently some places have stopped self checkout because of theft. Whoda >>>> thunk? >>>> >>>> -Curt >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 06:26:29 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I was thinking, as I was in the self check out at the Safeway the other >>>> day, that we’ve been told if the minimum wage and Arizona goes up to >>>> whatever it is supposed to go up to, we can expect to see a rise and prices >>>> to reflect that. Which lead me to think I don’t remember prices going down >>>> when they got rid of cashiers and I had to start checking out my own >>>> groceries. >>>> >>>> But we all know there is a check valve in the pipeline of rising prices. >>>> >>>> AZBob >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 19, 2024, at 3:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I went to El Mercado de Wal to get a battery for my tractor today and >>>> figured I'd pick up a coupla jugs of antifreeze. Saw the blue stuff for >>>> Euro cars was on clearance for $9.50 which was lower than any of the other >>>> stuff they had, and was $16.63 regular price. There are some blue versions >>>> for Asian and Merkun cars too but this one was on clearance. I grabbed the >>>> 4 jugs on the shelf, said it was for 2014 and earlier Benzes. >>>> >>>> Go to the (self) checkout and the jugs rang up normal price so I called >>>> the attendant woman over and she adjusted the price for me, no questions no >>>> checking, so I appreciated that. It got me thinking I could have said >>>> anything, I don't think she really cared one way or the other. The lack of >>>> oversight there I could have walked out with the whole load had I been >>>> inclined to do so, which is probably not very uncommon. It wasn't very >>>> busy there either which was kinda unusual, I hit Costco too and it was >>>> mobbed for some reason on a early Tuesday afternoon. >>>> >>>> There is no full strength AF on the shelves any more, you have to buy >>>> the 50/50 stuff which I guess is more convenient but I kinda like to roll >>>> my own. Oh well, progress and an accommodation to the dumbing down of the >>>> populace. >>>> >>>> Anyway, it was a good deal. Costco had M1 oil on sale too but it was >>>> still quite a bit more than the Costco flavor. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --FT >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
