http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-Mercedes-2200-Diesel-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ230074986561QQihZ013QQcategoryZ10076QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jan 06 20:56:05 2007 Received: from smtp-out1.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net ([70.43.63.18] helo=smtp01.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1H3IaD-00028o-7c for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 20:56:05 +0000 Received: from TP730006 (209.248.238.162.nw.nuvox.net [209.248.238.162]) by smtp01.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id l06KqeSd014670 for <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:52:40 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:50:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 20:56:05 -0000
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-DIESEL-1991-300D-DIESEL-SMOKE-FREE-in-FLORIDA-at-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330071864350QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jan 06 21:09:59 2007 Received: from vms040pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H3Inf-0002RP-LS for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:09:59 +0000 Received: from WFlaptop ([141.150.249.119]) by vms040.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:06:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:05:00 -0500 From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 14, Issue 37 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:09:59 -0000 As a general rule, to get the most power from the fuel ignition, the spark must begin BEFORE TDC. Retarding the spark to TDC or later makes the engine run smooth, but with lots less power. The idea is to get thefuel/air mixture to ignite and start to burn, and thus build up pressure just before the piston reaches TDC, and complete the combustion before it gets to the end of the power stroke. You do not want any un-burned fuel left as the exhaust stroke begins. Typically, spark ignition begins anywhere from 6 to 26 degrees BTDC. One of the reasons that Diesels don't have the initial "zip" of a gasser is that the fuel won't ignite until the compressed air temp gets high enough, which is a lot closer to TDC. And the CDI engines get the full fuel burn and low emissions because they use 4-5 pulses of very small spurts of fuel (some in fractions of microseconds), first to start the burn, then to make some power, keep it going, and burn all residuals - something mechanical IPs could never accomplish. Werner ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 14, Issue 37 > You wrote about octane and detonation: > <<making it more likely to detonate rather than burn smoothly > across the chamber. In essence you are adding a heavier component to make > it burn slower to reduce the problem of detonation>> > > Hi Royce, > Is that your way of saying the higher octane detonates later and > therefore closer to the time when the piston reaches TDC - or almost? - > I'm assuming TDC is the best place to ignite the mixture for max HP and > other ignition points are preferable if lower emissions, etc are the > objective? > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)