Hendrik - I cannot begin to understand how anyone could relate Iraq to 9/11. A case could be made for Saudi Arabia, and perhaps a few other countries, but at the time (and probably yet today), the perpetrators were under the direction of a group in Afghanistan, if we are to believe what's in the news reports of the day. And I'm not aware that Iraq attacked us - they did attack Kuwait, and we had the whole Arab world on our side to kick them back into their own land. IMO, we will probably find that most of the reasons for knocking off Saddam Hussein were based on poor decisions, even though the cause was righteous. I find it a bit ironic to blame the UN for being ineffective, when we in the USA often don't support it when it doesn't suit us. Yes, they are a bumbling, bureaucratic bunch, but it is something we helped establish, and it is about as democratic as can be. Not perfect by any means, but still democratic.

Werner

----- Original Message ----- From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts


That's a fairly broad statement which can be applied to just about every
society/tribe/individual on this earth. Isn't the occupation of Iraq
retribution for 9/11? Haven't the Christian and Islam religions been feuding
for centuries? What would you do if your neighbour attacked you?
Sure the whole Iraq thing has been a disaster from the start, partly due to
lack of understanding on behalf of the strategists and partly due to the
lack of help from other powerful nations(the question here being what, if
anything, was their plan to move Iraq forward? More sanctions, UN
resolutions that state Saddam is a very naughty boy. It's all very nice of
them to now snigger at the mess but they where quite happy to let the Iraqy
people rot under UN imposed sanctions that only hurt the little people).
However the good news is that it is only a minority of fundamentalist that
want to create a Islamic state, with the majority of Iraqies just wanting to
live their lives in relative peace(and the problem being they may well
choose an Islamic state just to get that relative peace).
This leads me to another one of the major stuff ups, why wheren't the people
of Iraq asked to vote on what sort of future they want. There was an
arrogant assumption made that the Iraq people want a US/western style
democracy, sure they may well do but without a clear mandate from the Iraq
people it is seen as western arrogance to impose what we think they should
have in the way of a government.



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