Umm okay, sure. I want to know just one thing; Where are you getting whatever you are smoking when you tell the banned list to behave?
-j. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Leaving now for far northern IL, north of chicago, 1 mile from WI > border. Be back tomorrow. Until then, behave. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, > 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, > 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 18 12:50:37 2007 Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1He9cL-0004Py-1q for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:50:37 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter16.comcast.net ([204.127.197.126]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20070418125021m13003c1noe>; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:50:31 +0000 Received: from [157.234.254.6] by rmailcenter16.comcast.net; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:50:20 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:50:20 +0000 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: andyZWFtZXNAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Cummins Pickups X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:50:37 -0000 Sounds like they have them in a seires sort of arrangement, one that is small for off-idle and one that is larger for the mid-high range. They probably pop the wastegate/vanes to reduce the load on the small turbo as the larger one picks up. You can PROBABLY do it without too many sensors (straight pressure/vac control), as I think it is nothing new under the sun, but we all know that is not how things are done these days. What did Scotty say in Star Trek 3? I think it was along the lines of "The more they overtake the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the works". I think they have forgotten Occam's Razor and the KISS principle. But then the service engineers would starve if they weren't powerchoke diesels. (I know, they have been pretty good since they fixed the EGR valves, but I bet they still havent moved the return line to the opposite end of the rail from the supply... Makes them REALLY fun to bleed) -j. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I sure hope they didn't screw it up! > (Ala Ford's 6.0) > > Ford recently came out with a 6.4L powerstroke Diesel with two turbos, one > to increase off idle performance and the other to increase mid to high RPM > performance. That sounds like too many sensors for me! > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > 1983 300sD 267K miles, Ursula > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 18 13:13:35 2007 Received: from server326.com ([216.35.197.26]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1He9yY-0005c3-H1 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:13:35 +0000 Received: (qmail 2555 invoked by uid 504); 18 Apr 2007 13:13:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.0.120?) (68.157.168.83) by ns1.server326.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2007 13:13:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mathieu J. Cama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:13:29 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mom's 87 300E hard starting puzzler.. X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:13:36 -0000 Glad to hear it. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Kevin J. Slater wrote: > Mathieu, > > you nailed the problem. I pulled the OVP and it fell apart in my > hands. My > brother ordered a new one from Rusty and shipped it to my house. > Dropped > in the new one and it fixed the problem completely. > > ...Kevin > > Mathieu J.Cama said: >> Kevin, >> >> Things to check: >> >> Check the fuse on the top of the OVP relay. It is a 10 amp ATC fuse. >> This can cause hard starting when cold and explain the ABS light. It >> is >> a silver "box" relay, located near the battery with a fuse (red) on >> the >> top of it, iirc on a w124. Sometimes, the OVP will still have its >> clear >> plastic cover on the top. >> >> Temp sensor for the fuel injection. >> >> Ignition rotor and distributor cap, but this would cause poor >> running >> at all temps if things were really bad. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Mathieu >> >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Kevin J. Slater wrote: >> >>> I have a plea for the list. I'm trying to keep my Mom's 87 300E on >>> the >>> road and I only get word when things are bad. Recently she called to >>> tell >>> me that one day she went to start the car (was probably about 50 F >>> that >>> day) and it would turn over easily but it wouldn't catch and run. She >>> stated that the day before all was fine and dandy. She managed to get >>> it >>> started and came down to my house. She was there for several hours >>> and >>> we >>> went out to start it in my driveway. >>> >>> When you could get it to catch and run it ran very rough unless you >>> took >>> the tach up to about 1800 - 2000 rpms where upon it would smooth out. >>> If >>> you dropped it down into the 1000 rpm range, if you could keep it >>> from >>> stalling, it bucked and I could intermittently hear something like a >>> backfiring sound through the air cleaner (I was standing outside the >>> car). >>> If you kept the engine in that higher rpm range for about 5 minutes >>> until >>> the coolant temp came up to about 60 C, then it would run pretty much >>> normally at all rpm ranges. Once warmed up there was no loss of power >>> or >>> misfiring that I could detect. >>> >>> I checked the air filter and it seemed normal enough. Not sure what >>> to >>> check next. She did mention that her ABS light has come on now and >>> doesn't >>> go off. I could be connected or just a weird coincidence. She added >>> fuel >>> injector cleaner prior to coming down to my house (about 35 miles of >>> highway). I thought about changing out the fuel filter, but that >>> doesn't >>> make sense in light of the improvement in running once warmed up. >>> >>> I would appreciate any ideas. The rest of the family is anxious to >>> get >>> her >>> into some other car which she won't be able to afford and no doubt >>> will >>> turn out to be a death trap tin can. >>> >>> ...Kevin >>> 79 240D >>> 87 300TD >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > > > -- > "Thank God for Microsoft" -- Linus Torvalds > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >
