For those like me who don't have a garage, I just visited a friend in the high 
desert are of CA.  He has a 1,600 sq ft garage attached to his house, and a 
1,900 Sq ft garage attached to his house accross the street, and uses that 
house to store parts for his cars. He still ends up with 4 vehicles outside, 
plus the one he usually drives.  I guess you can never have enough garage 
space.  The rest of us can dream.
BillR
Jacksonville  FL [currently in San Diego / Yucca Valley]
1981 300SD  289k miles, currently getting a new AC, new R side ball joint and 
idler arm while I am gone.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Apr 23, 2007 8:01 AM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Garage Option
>
>A friend built a 30 X 40 X 12' shop using conduit and roofing metal.  He
>bought a Harbor Freight bender and put it up with the help of his wife.
>Even made it two-tone.  It survived  Katrina coming through here as a
>category one hurricane.  Pretty cheap.
>
>Harry
>
>
>On 4/23/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Larry, where are you located?
>> In some (non-freezing) locales, you can pour a slab and bolt your building
>> to the
>> top of it.
>> In other places, you need to place footings below the frost line to
>> support
>> your garage. In my part of Michigan, the footings have to be at least 42"
>> below grade level. A pole barn with a 30' span requires 18" diameter by
>> at least 8" thick concrete footings. The quick way is to auger some
>> 18" holes in the ground, call for the concrete truck to pour the footings,
>> and then start standing the poles on the footings. There are builders who
>> will erect a 30x40x8' pole building (wood frame, steel siding and roof)
>> for about $7,000, not counting floor, wiring, insulation, or plumbing.
>> Shingle roof and vinyl siding tends to be a slight cost increase, those
>> materials are cheaper than steel, but take more labor to install.
>>
>> I'm still in the planning phase on a 30x56x12' with living quarters and
>> space for about 6 cars. Thinking about either going to 10' to save some
>> money (have to use a floor plate car lift and not run it up all the way)
>> or going 16' tall so have attic storage above the apartment. I'm looking
>> to pay about 11-12k for materials, and put considerable time into building
>> it. IIRC, you have physical limitations and would be hiring the
>> installation
>> of whatever you buy.
>> The good steel buildings (framework like a factory building) cost 1.5-2x
>> as much as wood frames for the materials, but assemble quicker, and the
>> installed price difference isn't that bad. Olympia makes some garage size
>> buildings, but the cost tends to get high if you need a steep roof slope
>> for local winter conditions.
>> Mitch.
>>
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