If your fluid was black, you changed the fluid, put in magnets and they
are continuing to trap stuff then I suggest that you don't stray far
from home to keep your upcoming towing bill to a minimum.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-----Original Message-----
From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: 9/14/07 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas W140? Was - rod bender

When I got my 87SDL, it would not shift into 3rd, flared horribly
going into 2nd, and shifted hard. When I drained the trans fluid, it
came out looking like chocolate syrup. I've changed the fluid at least
4 times thus far and the magnets I put in the transmission pan are
still coming out covered with black slime. The transmission is working
perfectly now.

It might make sense to a theoretical physicist that the fluid should
last forever, but things are different in the real world. The fact is
that if you change your transmission fluid, it WILL last longer. You
are welcome to test out your theory on your own car, Tom. Let us know
how it goes....

-Dave Walton

On 9/14/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Years ago, the manufacturers waffled between change and no change. And
> even in 70s, some mechanics did not recommend changing the fluid. Then
> they realiized that they were loosing revene and everyone recommended
> transmission fluid changed, the more often the better.
>
> The issue centers around the fact that unlike engine oil, there is
> nothing to contaminate transmission fluid except for material from the
> wear parts. Most of this material settles in the bottom of the pan.
>
> Also, auto tranny fluid does not absorb water like brake fluid and it
> does not wear out.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: 9/14/07 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas W140? Was - rod bender
>
> Mercedes is in on the act: when picking up parts at the dealer, I
> asked how often the transmission fluid should be changed on my 1999
> E300. They said "Never - it's good for life.". Of course that's
> bullshit. Never changing trans fluid just guarantees it will fail.
> They even stopped putting a drain plug on the Torque Converter. I
> guess they saved $1.75 by skipping the machining process of seating a
> drain plug. Not to mention all the repair business they will get from
> replacing transmissions for pissed off customers.
>
> -Dave Walton
>
> On 9/14/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 9/14/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > These days, you can drive most cars past 100,000 miles with no
major
> > > service.
> >
> > I'm not convinced this is always a good thing.  You're talking about
> > average service lives of components.  A significant part of the data
> > set is under the left half of the bell curve, meaning that something
> > will fail before 100,000 miles---often with no more indication than
> > the Check Engine light and maybe a funny noise or two (easily
ignored
> > with the amount of soundproofing in new cars).  Then the average
> > driver freaks out at the cost of deferred maintenance, and another
car
> > ends up run into the ground and ready for the junkyard after 10
years.
> >  It's wasteful.
> >
> > Alex Chamberlain
> > '87 300D Turbo et al.
> >
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