Given the different alphabets used [which tend to change over the centuries]
that number [and there is some question as to 666 being the number intended
- and you certainly can't look it up in English and be sure] can be used to
refer to almost anyone.  Using the Hebrew alphabet from before or after the
insertion of vowels, for instance, or using the Latin alphabet, or Greek
will give different results.  Nero was the most likely candidate at the
time.  You can be sure that anyone who suggests it refers to anyone today
started out with that person in mind then figured a way to use the alphabet
they needed to make it add up.  They will pretend they are doing exegesis
[reading out of the text], but in fact are doing isogesis [reading a desired
meaning into the text].  We can be sure that someone writing when those
passages were written was not referring to implanted chips or to a position
that did not then exist.  It had to make sense at the time or it would not
have been written or passed on. Somehow I doubt we want to get into that
sort of discussion here, though.  Entertaining, but even further OT than
guns or politics.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  301,111 miles  - getting a rebuilt injection pump today -
hopefully the last of the big expenses for a few years 


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On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs

Let's see...  VICARIUS FILII DEI (Latin = the Pope) ads up to 666. Many held
"the Pope" was the Anti-Christ. Anyone "added up" any of the new candidates
yet? Hm... 


on 4/15/08 15:21 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.....I'm out of here.
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/15/08, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to.
>> 
>> And in an attempt to alienate the rest of the list who are not ignoring
this
>> crazy talk:
>> 
>> I'll go on to say that the interpretation of the text that I have been
most
>> inclined to believe is that those who have a relationship with Christ
will
>> be raptured out of the earth before this requirement to accept The Mark
of
>> the Beast is foisted upon mankind. And do I recall that it goes that
those
>> who remain on Earth and refuse to accept the mark will be beheaded?
>> 
>> - Brian
>> 
>> Barry wrote:Actually we are much closer than you may have imagined. My
>> stepson is an
>> audio-visual tech and runs those systems at trade shows of all kinds. He
>> obviously gets to hear what is said and shown in those shows. He related
to
>> me, hearing something rather disturbing at a "security devices" trade
show a
>> year or so ago where the plan for future identification will be to
implant
>> an RFID chip in the palm of everyone's hand and one in their forehead.
That
>> way, when the systems wants to make a positive ID of you, it will read
the
>> chip in your forehead and compare it to a retinal scan of your eye, then
>> read your thumb print and compare it to the chip in your hand. If it all
>> matches, great, you are who you say you are. This can be implemented
right
>> now.
>> 
>> 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and
bond,
>> to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
>> 
>> 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the
name
>> of the beast, or the number of his name.
>> 
>> Makes you stop and think.
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