Mad Max and Terminator all rolled up together.  Guns, droids, steam and 
wood gas vehicles, I can't wait!

--R

Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> Yeah right, obviously you have not been paying attention.
> Even if worst comes to worst using a steam traction engine is way more 
> efficient than a pack of horses.
> Then there is bio-fuel, which a Farmer can grow.
> Hydrogen is perhaps another option if there are enough nuclear power 
> stations to produce the stuff.
> Whilst the horse and mule story is nice for the doomsayers to scare 
> people the reality is that technology has moved along and can also move 
> backwards to meet demand.
>
> Hendrik
>
> Redghost wrote:
>   
>> All the paved over bits will be used to transport the agribusiness  
>> products to consumers who will be even further removed from the land  
>> and just how it all gets to the mega store.   At least until we have  
>> global conflict to reduce our numbers and the demand for daily fuel  
>> and food.  A malthusian catastrophe will ensue.  Global population  
>> will crash, technology will not save us, and those who survive will  
>> need to know how to be efficient farmers without diesel tractors, but  
>> horses and mules.
>>
>> If we are lucky it will be our great grandchildren instead of the  
>> grandkids who have to live like the Amish.
>>
>> clay
>>   
>>
>>     
>
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