A groaning sound under those conditions would be consistent with a 
substantial frame crack.  If you want a really good weld, find the 
local guy who is building a tubing frame homebuilt airplane, or a 
good A+P mechanic with emphasis on the A!  When you weld on 
airframes, you don't want failures.

I saw the frame for a university solar car several years back.  I 
would not have even sat in it in a stationary position, mush less in 
a solar race.  I didn't see one decent weld on the whole tube 
frame.  Those guys are practicing engineers today.  Scary!   Give me 
a German-trained machinist any day!  (don't mean to offend you P.E.s 
on the list, but I am sure you have seen similar things.)

At 11:05 PM 5/14/2008, you wrote:
>Oh man what a bummer, that is not anything I would want to hear either.
>I guess that might be that groaning I was hearing when stopping,
>starting or turning a corner. I hope it will be possible to repair the
>cracks without to great a cost.
>
>Manfred
>
>
>
>Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:31:00 -0400
>From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>Just got a call from the MN specialist who wants me to come over so he
>   can
>show me where the frame is cracked.  That I was not expecting nor am I
>pleased to hear that one.  Any thoughts as to what if anything can be
>   done?
>He wanted me to see it before we talked about it.
>
>BillR
>
>Jacksonville FL
>
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