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In https://phab.mercurial-scm.org/D219#3755, @martinvonz wrote: > In https://phab.mercurial-scm.org/D219#3661, @quark wrote: > > > I'm thinking about the difference between the deprecated `[defaults]` and `[commands]` (and also `[alias]`) but don't quite get it. It seems people wanting the behavior might just set `alias.status = status -v`, or use `[defaults]`. What's the advantage of using a `[commands]` option? > > > Good point, there's probably no good reason to use [commands] for this. [defaults] has been discouraged, but I don't know if there's a good reason to discourage it (I think it's already ignored when HGPLAIN is in effect). The discouragement is twofold: we didn't used to have HGPLAIN, and it used to be there was no way to un-do the setting of a boolean flag in [defaults]. Both of those limitations are now fixed, so I'm less worried about it overall. That said, I would like a config knob for this, so it can be part of ui.tweakdefaults. > [commands] make sense when there's no command line flag for the behavior, but we do have that here. So if we agree on using --verbose for this, I don't think I see a reason to a special config for it and we can use [defaults] instead. > > Hmm, I just realized there is a somewhat good reason to avoid [defaults]: it applies to *all* options at once. Let me clarify with an example. Let's say your sysadmin has set "defaults.status = --relative" (hypothetical option -- it's currently a config in [commands]) and you want to keep that *and* get verbose status output, you now have to copy the default config from the system hgrc. I don't think I've heard that argument against [defaults] before, but that seems more relevant than the scripting argument (which, again, goes away with HGPLAIN). Or am I mistaken? That's another argument in favor of a config knob IMO. I'm not sure if --verbose should be (ab)used for this, given that we've got --terse. --verbose almost sounds like the opposite of --terse, so it might be confusing. Meditate on that, I guess. (Marking as "Request changes" for now, since we seem largely agreed that --verbose is a decent way to go, and if nobody else is worried about the conceptual overlap with --terse I'm fine with it, especially since I more or less expect this to be on in tweakdefaults soon.) REPOSITORY rHG Mercurial REVISION DETAIL https://phab.mercurial-scm.org/D219 To: pulkit, #hg-reviewers, durin42 Cc: durin42, quark, akushner, martinvonz, durham, mercurial-devel _______________________________________________ Mercurial-devel mailing list Mercurial-devel@mercurial-scm.org https://www.mercurial-scm.org/mailman/listinfo/mercurial-devel
