On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:05:53 +0100
"Chris Browet" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Hugh,
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 

Very welcome, it's the least I can do since I don't know C++.

You may have noticed, there are four new tickets for these items, refs
quoted below for the cross-reference.

> > how
> > about parallel/redundant text-based controls? One could allow
> > selection by ID. Just in case I'm having trouble selecting any
> > object, why not allow me to input its ID? [1] Another control or
> > menu item could be visible on the selection of an object. It would
> > allow users to add the selected object(s) to the specified relation
> > ID (a picklist of recently edited relations with their names could
> > be provided to aid recall).
> 
> 
> Please open a ticket for this one.
> 

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1469

> > * I think the task labels "download" and "download more" could be
> > rethought. They confused me at first and I suspect confuse most
> > newbies. Maybe something like "fetch area" and "reveal more data"?
> > They suck, too, but they have the right meaning. "Change viewport"
> > and "Retrieve viewport data"??
> 
> 
> What about "Download current viewport"?
> 

Sounds fine. It's hard to trade off accuracy with succinctness. I
imagine it shouldn't be that long.

> > * further on that, I use "download more", more frequently than
> > "download", but it has a more difficult keyboard shortcut (^-Shift-D
> > vs ^-d). It's a problem to change the interface like this suddenly,
> > but can we think about how to address this over time?
> 
> 
> There is a shortcut editor to avoid discussions about the pertinence
> of shortcuts. Changing such an often used one could disturb some.
> Obviously, if there is a consensus, I don't mind...
> 

I agree we're probably stuck with decisions like that. Didn't know
about the shortcut editor – will check it out.

> >
> > * if I have object(s) selected, I lose this when I use "download
> > more"
> 
> 
> You mean you lose the selection? Please open a ticket...

Exactly, and easily repeated: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1470

> >
> > * it would also be nice to select multiple rows in the tag data
> > control and delete them. It seems to me I have to select and delete
> > each key/value pair separately. This is something I often have to
> > do with GPX waypoints that I make into proper OSM nodes. There
> > might also be other operations users want to do with multiple tags.
> 
> 
> Ticket, please ;-)
> 

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1471

> >
> > * when I get 412 Precondition Failed (etc., perhaps other API
> > errors), can I find out more specific info? For example: which
> > object caused the API error? which objects have been affected
> > (because usually my upload partially succeeds)? It seems the API
> > doesn't supply this level of help, though, so maybe that's a
> > request for the API to provide richer feedback.
> 
> 
> Yep, the 412 is returned from the API and we cannot know (AFAIK) what
> caused it.
> 

Fair enough. I'll look out for a chance to influence this in the API
discussions.

> >
> > * when I change the role of members in the tag data cells for
> > relations, the change does not seem to show in the cell until it's
> > scrolled. Some little glitch in the UI.
> >
> > * data cells for relation members do not behave the same way as data
> > cells for object tags when I use the TAB key. When I am in the last
> > column of the tagging data cell row, I can tab to the next row. I
> > cannot do this for relation members.
> 
> 
> Ticket, please ;-)  You can merge the last 2 points, as the general
> problem is that some of the enhancements made to the tag list
> probably didn't make it to the relation member list.
> 

Ugh! http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1472

Cheers

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