On 4 Nov 99, at 20:37, Preda Mihailescu wrote:

> Sorry to contradict you, but this things are called ``deterministic under the
> ERH'', which is totally different from deterministic, straight.

Of course, you're right.

> Simply, if the ERH
> is proved one day to be true, all the effort spent meanwhile for finding
> deterministic primality proofs [independent of the ERH] would look 
> rather curly. But such is life.

[Phrase in brackets is my insertion - BJB]

Not neccessarily. Work applied in one direction sometimes proves 
useful somewhere else, even if the original project fails or is 
superceded.

> I was in Rome this summer when the proof of the Taniyama conjecture
> was announced, and at the same conference, in fact the day after the 
> announcement, there were several talks about ``elliptic curves which 
> are modular'', or ``Weyl curves'' - which were in that day known to be
> simply all elliptic curves :-).

It's unfair to expect people to rewrite their papers overnight!

> And as for your claim that Miller's proof would feature a contradiction to the 
> ERH, that is also false.

If we find a number with a certificate of primality derived from some 
method not dependent on the ERH but which nevertheless passes 
Miller's Test as a strong pseudoprime for all bases less than
2(ln n)^2, then either Miller's paper is broken, or we have a 
counterexample disproving the ERH. So far as I'm aware, Miller's 
paper is no more contentious than Pythagoras's Theorem.

Proth's Theorem allows us to find certified prime numbers of a fair 
size (thousands of digits) quite rapidly. Granted these are a very  
thin subset of all numbers, and, even then, running sufficient 
Miller's Tests on a number with "only" a thousand digits would take a 
very large amount of CPU time. That's why I won't be holding my 
breath!


Regards
Brian Beesley
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