Mersenne Digest        Friday, August 18 2000        Volume 01 : Number 770




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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 04:52:38 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Miscellany

<< Yes. There are *many* blind people who rely on speech output of on-screen 
text.>>

A good point, and the ALT tag is very useful.  But although blind people and 
people with Lynx can't see images, that's no reason not to use images at all. 
 Images + ALT tag is the way to go.  Likewise, just because ancient browsers 
which make up 5% of all browsers out there can't see PNG, that's no reason 
not to use PNG at all.  PNG + ALT tag is the way to go.

Stephan Lavavej
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 05:03:40 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mersenne: Re: Mersenne Digest V1 #769

<<Yes! And that thought is called an ALT= attribute. In the `new' HTML 4.0(1)
DTDs, ALT= tags are in fact _mandatory_ on every IMG tag. Remember that the
blind are to use the web, too... Similarily, people may choose to turn off
images if they're on low bandwidth, or just want a cleaner page.>>

Yes, I did forget this in my original post.  I was _thinking_ it, though.  
:-P  And indeed on my website which I make in pure WordPad, I do include ALT= 
tags on all of my images.

<<I think comparing PNG with Flash is... well, not good>>

Yes, it's like comparing a beautiful jewel to a bloated cow.  Sorry....

<<My point is, make the page look _good_ for the top 95%, and make it 
_usable_ for
the low 5%.>>

I agree.  Thank you for correcting me.

<<But, on the other hand, is amazingly much simpler (you can quite easily 
write a
GIF reader in a couple hundred lines of C -- just counting the .c files in
libpng and zlib gives over 25000 lines of code) :-) But we've got computers 
that
are powerful enough now, I think>>

The point is that libpng and zlib are _already written_ for you.  And 
anyways, have you ever read the PNG format specification?  I'm just beginning 
to program C, and have no prior experience with any file formats at the bit 
level, but after I read the PNG spec I understood that it was beautiful.  
It's simple and it makes sense.  GIF doesn't make sense to me.

<<Yes! :-)>>

Cool!  :-D

Stephan "unsigned long int" Lavavej
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:34:34 +0200
From: FOSSANO Patrick OCISI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Miscellany

> Subject: Re: Mersenne: Miscellany
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Thought:  If a website uses images, does it necessarily have to care that
> text-based browsers won't see them?  No.
> 
What? Do your banners really not be WAP-compatible? :-D

Well, will have a "WAP-phone" enought power to run a quick LL-test :-??

Patrick
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:13:47 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Reto Keiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: running prime95 while a login screen is active 

Hi

I have currently the opportunity to run prime95 during the summer
holiays in the computer lab of a college. At the moment, all clients
were started manually in a special account.
When school rebegins in two weeks this would not be possible any
more. So i have to install prime95 in a way, that starts automaitaccly
at each login.

These pentium computers are running win95 and a novell network
(but the win95 login screen). Each pupil has an own login
Is it possible to install prime95 in a way, that it runs
always, even while the login screen is active? What about 'running as
service'?

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p-1 double chack:

At the meoment a p-1 test will be performed before each firstLLtest and
each Doublechack. As far as I know primenet does not save these results,
so each p-1 test will be done twice. Is it possible to avoid that?

At the moment, it is possible to look up the exponent in Eric
Hahh's list, which is quite unwieldy if there are many exponents,
and not everone is sending the bounds to Eric, either.

Reto

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:48:55 +0200
From: "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: Re: running prime95 while a login screen is active

On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 02:13:47PM +0200, Reto Keiser wrote:
>These pentium computers are running win95 and a novell network
>(but the win95 login screen). Each pupil has an own login
>Is it possible to install prime95 in a way, that it runs
>always, even while the login screen is active? What about 'running as
>service'?

The `running as service' is exactly what you're looking for (in the Options
menu). Just be sure to remove Prime95 from the Startup menu (where, for some
reason, the installer obviously puts it -- argh!) -- if your pupils don't really
know what Prime95 is, consider LockUserInfo=1 (see undoc.txt) and possibly `No
Icon' too.

(Side note to George: Would it somehow be possible to include computer IP in the
selection of what prime.ini file to use? I'm having the problem that the
machines at school are quite often ghosted, and thus they lose their save-files
etc. -- if I could give each their own share at a SMB server, that would
probably solve a lot...)

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:37:18 +0200
From: Henk Stokhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: weird behaviour Prime 95

Hi,

My Windows95 system ran Prime 95 v20.3.1 for five weeks without any
troubles of any kind. I am back for about a week, and have noticed that
whenever I restart Windows95 Prime 95 runs fine for a couple of hours
and than slows down enormously. The machine is usually
unattended. Weird enough the system monitor reports processor activity
to have gone to a very low level, the machine still functions seemingly
normal. If the same program is started up using Windows2000 installed on

the same machine, Prime 95 keeps functioning normal.

Any ideas where to start looking for the troublecause?

There are no energysaving programs installed other than switching of the

monitor. Restarting Prime 95 gets the system monitor reporting 100%
processor usage, however taking an iteration 40 times as much time as
normal, quitting Prime95 then gets processor activity back to zero!

YotN,

Henk Stokhorst.

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:13:30 +0200
From: Yann Forget <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: Work for RS6000 ?

Hi,

I have a few RS6000 B50 for a few weeks at least,
runing Linux (375 Mhz, 500 Mo RAM).
Is there any work which could be given to them ?

Thanks,
Yann
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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:09:13 -0700
From: "xqrpa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: Final Fix For Prime95 On The Compaq Presario 7998

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For The Compaq Ath(lon)ete:

In a couple of previous emails, I mentioned the slowdown of
the (Athlon) Compaq Presario 7998 in factoring and other Prime95
computations.  The parasitic process, if that is what it was,
never showed up on my PV 2000 list of contendahs, but did
go away briefly when the modem began dialing out.=20

By accident I set Prime95 priority to "real," and the timing=20
dropped to what it should be.  At 1GHz, a factor run from
2^53 through 2^65 takes just 26 hours.  The mouse pointer
still moves, too.

Best Wishes,
Stefanovic





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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 01:13:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: Russel Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mersenne: weird behaviour Prime 95

Henk Stokhorst wrote:
> whenever I restart Windows95 Prime 95 runs fine for a couple of hours
> and than slows down enormously. The machine is usually

My friend's Win98 machine does the same thing.  She went on vacation for
a week and when she returned a factoring iteration that use to take
about 13 seconds now took over 170.  After restarting the fast
performance returned (for a while).  The machine is an IBM Aptiva with
450MHz PII.

Cheers... Russ

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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:53:20 -0700
From: "xqrpa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: AMD vs. Intel:  GiggleHurts Goliaths Duke It Out

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Weekend Thrilla:

Both chips OC nicely to 1.1 GHz, and the in-depth lowdown
can be enjoyed at:

http://www.gamepc.com/reviews/hardware_review.asp?review=3D1ghzshootout2&=
page=3D1

Although not mentioned, Prime95 is the torture-tester used when
the gamers take a break.

Bon Weekend,
Stefanovic

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