On 17.01.2018 01:23, Jordan Justen wrote:
On 2018-01-16 13:57:37, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:18:13 AM PST Emil Velikov wrote:
Hi all,

As you've know the Mesa 18.0.0 release plan has been available for a while
on the mesa3d.org website [1].

In case you've missed it here it is:

  Jan 19 2018 - Feature freeze/Release candidate 1
  Jan 26 2018 - Release candidate 2
  Feb 02 2018 - Release candidate 3
  Feb 09 2018 - Release candidate 4/final release

This gives us half a week until the branch point.

As this is shorter notice than usual, I'm open to adjusting the schedule by a
week. Do let me know ASAP, if we should go that route.

As always - do list features/sets that you'd like to see merged. Thus we can
all have a clear idea and prioritise accordingly.

Thanks
Emil

[1] https://www.mesa3d.org/release-calendar.html

A few observations and some questions...

Although 17.3 was branched in late October, 17.3.0 wasn't released until
December 8th - about 6 weeks ago.  17.3.x also shipped with a pretty
catastrophic DRI3 bug that caused tons of applications to segfault,
which was fixed by 897c54d522ab960a879b763a15e489f630c491ee, but that
hasn't yet made it into a shipping 17.3.x release.  Arguably, I think
17.3.3 is going to be the first usable 17.3.x release.

So...is it too early to branch for 18.0?

- Have distros picked up 17.3.x yet?
- Is there anything in master that people are excited about shipping?
- There are about 2 months of work since the 17.3.x branch point
   (half of October, all of November, about half of December because
   so many people were on holidays).

I'm wondering if a mid-February branch point and March release would
make more sense, just to space them out.

Related to this, what are the cutoffs for upcoming distro releases?

I'm not sure for Fedora 28. Maybe Beta Freeze on March 6?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule

It looks like March 1st for Ubuntu 18.04.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule

To be honest, I'm a fan of the predictable time-based releases and would rather not do ad-hoc monkeying around with schedules as a matter of principle. With the dates above and a conservative approach (there may be additional RCs...), we don't have much wiggle room anyway.

If people want to slow down generally to 3 releases systematically, that's fine, although 3 releases are probably harder to sync up to 6-month schedules.

Cheers,
Nicolai



-Jordan

Then again, I've also
suggested doing 3 releases a year in the past, since I thought they were
too close together.  So, if people disagree, I'm totally fine with that.

Just asking the question :)

--Ken


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