On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:53 PM Ilia Mirkin <imir...@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:40 PM Gert Wollny <gw.foss...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Ilia, > > > > Am Sonntag, den 16.12.2018, 12:40 -0500 schrieb Ilia Mirkin: > > > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 6:24 AM Gert Wollny <gw.foss...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Since Meson will eventually be the only build system deprecate > > > > autotools > > > > now. It can still be used by invoking configure with the flag > > > > --enable-autotools > > > > > > > > [...] > > > If the concern is that there are 2 build systems and it's unclear > > > which to use, I'd definitely err on the side of making meson the one > > > requiring extra hoops to jump through. > > > > > > > I think Jason already pointed out that this patch doesn't remove > > anything. If you have followed the threads you've seen that I'm also > > not exactly pushing for removing autotools, but I think since it is > > going to happen anyway, it would be best to give everyone a little more > > incentive to try out meson so that hopefully all the remaining issue > > are brought up and can be fixed, before autotools is removed in a > > stable release. > > Yeah, I totally see that you're not removing autotools with this > patch. I do see that you're making it harder to use though (i.e. > indicating to users that it's not the #1 way to do things). This > should only be done when it's ready to be deprecated. The argument > I've been making is that it's not. I've outlined some things that I > think are important to fix in meson in another thread.
You've said Meson's not ready given X, Y, and Z use cases. I've noted that some of those use cases were not reported earlier because the users had not given Meson a try until we began discussing removing autotools. This patch attempts to simply inform a larger group of users that are not subscribed to mesa-dev@ that the intention is for autotools to be removed. Dylan is working to fix X, Y, and Z, but there's a reasonable chance that a user who wasn't subscribed to mesa-dev@ might find problems A, B, and C only after he's forced to switch to Meson. This patch is the only thing that's been proposed so far to communicate with those users. Without some required interaction on the users part we will fail to communicate with some users and we'll be right back where we are now. WTF would you have us do? _______________________________________________ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
