Hey Andy,

Yea basically it's about the project name. I think if the logo doesn't
have Apache in it, that's OK (though personally I think it should say
have it in there) so long as the first prominent mention on the website
(in text I guess) has "Apache" and "Mesos" together to form "Apache Mesos".

I just replied to Dave, I think if we say "Getting started with Apache
Mesos" in big text, combined with Apache Software Foundation > Apache
Mesos,
in the breadcrumbs we're good.

Cheers,
Chris

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Konwinski <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:26 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mesos website refresh process, thoughts, and draft website

>Chris, this is about the project name, right? I.e. it says we have to call
>it "Apache Mesos" in text. I don't see anything about the Apache Software
>Foundation logo, which I assume is the feather logo, right?
>
>Open Office seems to get this right with the text for their project name
>in
>their logo http://www.openoffice.org/
>
>On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I personally think it's a requirement and also specified here:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#websites
>>
>>
>> The primary branding for any project or product name must be in the form
>> of "Apache Foo". This ensures that the project or product is associated
>> with the ASF and the project in the minds of our users. The first and
>>most
>> prominent reference to a project or product on each page must use the
>> "Apache Foo" form of its name. Other references may use either "Apache
>> Foo" or "Foo" as appropriate for the subject matter.
>>
>>
>> This falls into the "first and most prominent reference" part.
>>Regardless
>> of if they are requirements or not I won't get in to, but from my seat
>> as someone who cares about Mesos, but also about the ASF, I think we
>>need
>> to make sure there is a prominent first mention of *Apache* Mesos, and
>> I read things (as an English language speaker) left to right.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
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>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: [email protected]
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Lester <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: "[email protected]"
>><[email protected]
>> >
>> Date: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:37 PM
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Mesos website refresh process, thoughts, and draft website
>>
>> >Hey Chris,
>> >
>> >I didn't see this as a requirement. In general, I think it would be
>>fairly
>> >confusing to display the Apache feather logo in the upper left,
>> >particularly because the conventions of web design today typically
>> >position
>> >a project's logo in that corner.
>> >
>> >Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) <
>> >[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I love it!!
>> >>
>> >> One small nit is that in the upper left somewhere, displayed
>>prominently
>> >> there should be an Apache Software Foundation logo too.
>> >>
>> >> Looking styley!
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> >> Senior Computer Scientist
>> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> >> Email: [email protected]
>> >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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>> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Dave Lester <[email protected]>
>> >> Reply-To: "[email protected]"
>> >> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:17 PM
>> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: Mesos website refresh process, thoughts, and draft website
>> >>
>> >> >Hi All,
>> >> >
>> >> >I've expressed an interest in helping with a website refresh, and
>> >>wanted
>> >> >to
>> >> >break this down via email to get some feedback.
>> >> >
>> >> >*PROCESS*
>> >> >It'd be great to embrace an iterative process for the website; the
>> >>site is
>> >> >never 'done' and I think there are a number of changes we could make
>> >>both
>> >> >small and large. Shipping smaller changes quickly (especially since
>> >> >graduating + more eyeballs) is best, IMHO.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've created a new Jira issue where you can track this and leave
>> >>comments:
>> >> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-528
>> >> >
>> >> >*CHANGES*
>> >> >There are a number of changes that I'd like to see to the site, in
>> >>order
>> >> >from "must have" to "nice to have":
>> >> > * Add required links to Mesos website:
>> >> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-66
>> >> > * Update the website to use new Mesos logo.
>> >> > * Some visual changes to update the overall design of the site,
>>which
>> >>is
>> >> >a
>> >> >bit dated...
>> >> > * Making it easier for people to get started with Mesos by
>>simplifying
>> >> >and
>> >> >updating the site navigation to include 'getting started' and
>>'getting
>> >> >involved.' Probably moving research and FAQ to the documentation.
>> >> > * Making it easy to find out who uses Mesos and why by adding a
>>list
>> >>of
>> >> >active users to the homepage with logos. Testimonials could also be
>>a
>> >>way
>> >> >for people understand who is using the project and why.
>> >> > * Revamping of documentation (see
>> >> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-511), a few issues are
>> >>there
>> >> >and I think there is a lot of work that can be done there.
>> >> > * Migrate website to a template system of some kind.
>> >> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MESOS-495
>> >> >
>> >> >*DRAFT Site*
>> >> >With some help from Chris A, I've created a mockup of a Mesos
>>website
>> >> >refresh that I've shared with a few of you already:
>> >> >http://twitter.github.io/mesos-mockup/index.html
>> >> >
>> >> >Note several things: some of the links don't work; this was just a
>>flat
>> >> >site that was created to illustrate some larger ideas. Feedback,
>>both
>> >>at a
>> >> >high and granular level is appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> >*TIMELINE*
>> >> >I'd like to see some initial changes made in the next two weeks.
>> >> >
>> >> >Best,
>> >> >Dave
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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