I guess we have been considering injecting fake mappings as a serious attack. 
If the main trusted auth provider claims that Bill Gates' personal phone number 
should route to @matthew:matrix.org or xmpp:[email protected] or whatever, I 
will end up intercepting all of his messages... unless there is a solid 
reputation system either for auth providers or for the endpoints. This feels 
like a pretty big problem, if a single auth provider can be compromised or 
temporarily go rogue and start adding malicious mappings; hence looking for a 
way to try to keep folks honest.

-- 
Matthew Hodgson
matrix.org

> On 19 Aug 2015, at 20:01, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hi, Matthew
> 
> It seems that we can reduce power of auth provider. As we always rely on 
> SMS-gates for auth and they are already much more powerfull in this case. 
> Plus gate can only add fake numbers. What's a problem with it?
> 
> For building secure we need more that only single auth provider. For securing 
> some accounts people can use 2FA.
> 
> Steve.
> 
> 19.08.2015, 19:53, "Matthew Hodgson" <[email protected]>:
>> This is similar to the decentralised identity service ideas we've been 
>> experimenting with for Matrix. The problem we've hit (which I think this 
>> scheme suffers from too) is how you choose which auth providers to trust, 
>> otherwise you end up un-decentralising the system as the defacto auth 
>> provider ends up with way too much power. Do you consider this a problem?
>> 
>> We've been looking at using something like the stellar consensus protocol to 
>> propagate trust/reputation between the auth providers - or limiting 
>> ourselves to email and piggybacking on top of DKIM like webfist/webfinger.
>> 
>> p.s. does anyone know how dead/alive webfist is, and whether/why it failed?
>> 
>> --
>> Matthew Hodgson
>> matrix.org
>> 
>>>  On 19 Aug 2015, at 17:26, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hello everyone!
>>> 
>>>  Just finished small article about one idea of secure contact discovery: 
>>> https://medium.com/@ex3ndr/encrypted-public-contact-discovery-95cfa0a0f6c7
>>> 
>>>  Steve.
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