On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 05:59:06PM -0500, Ryan Eatmon wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/2/2023 17:47, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> >On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 04:49:28PM -0500, Randolph Sapp wrote:
> >>On 5/2/23 14:09, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 11:24:11AM -0500, Randolph Sapp wrote:
> >>>>On 4/27/23 20:59, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> >>>>>On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 07:31:16PM -0500, Randolph Sapp wrote:
> >>>>>>On 4/27/23 19:28, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>>>>From: Randolph Sapp <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>All of the software-dl links 302 to https urls anyway. Just jump
> >>>>>>>straight to the secure version.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Signed-off-by: Randolph Sapp <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>---
> >>>
> >>><snip>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>diff --git a/meta-ti-extras/recipes-ti/devtools/ti-cgt470.inc 
> >>>>>>>b/meta-ti-extras/recipes-ti/devtools/ti-cgt470.inc
> >>>>>>>index f0992aa7..77d23b6d 100644
> >>>>>>>--- a/meta-ti-extras/recipes-ti/devtools/ti-cgt470.inc
> >>>>>>>+++ b/meta-ti-extras/recipes-ti/devtools/ti-cgt470.inc
> >>>>>>>@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ require ../includes/ti-eula-unpack.inc
> >>>>>>>  S = "${WORKDIR}/cgt470_${PV}"
> >>>>>>>-SRC_URI = 
> >>>>>>>"http://install.source.dir.local/ti_cgt_tms470_${PVwithdots}_setup_linux_x86.bin;name=cgt470bin";
> >>>>>>>+SRC_URI = 
> >>>>>>>"https://install.source.dir.local/ti_cgt_tms470_${PVwithdots}_setup_linux_x86.bin;name=cgt470bin";
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Don't actually merge this. Wanted to take this opportunity to ask
> >>>>>>what on earth theses SRC_URIs are. What do these mean, what's the
> >>>>>>story?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Heh, these were placeholders for "clickwrap" packages, which at some 
> >>>>>point
> >>>>>long time ago TI Legal considered a "great" way to distribute software...
> >>>>>Basically, there was no direct download URL - you must have downloaded 
> >>>>>them
> >>>>>manually by filling out an online form and signing some sort of an 
> >>>>>agreement,
> >>>>>which would trigger the download. Then you "install the source into the 
> >>>>>local
> >>>>>downloads dir" (hence the name) by copying what you've downloaded 
> >>>>>manually
> >>>>>into your ${DL_DIR} and Bitbake would be able to find it there 
> >>>>>regardless of
> >>>>>the actual SRC_URI.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Oh cool, I hate it. (Thanks for the explanation, I just really don't
> >>>>like this idea.) Can we drop these (install methods or packages if
> >>>>necessary) or will policy not allow it?
> >>>
> >>>Nobody likes it on the engineering side! :) But it was forced back in the 
> >>>day
> >>>by sales/marketing/legal and took a lot of effort to convince everyone that
> >>>this clickwrap stuff doesn't bring much benefit, but causes damage...
> >>>
> >>>Since then most if not all of TI packages dropped clickwrap and allowed 
> >>>direct
> >>>download. Hence you don't see a lot of these weird URLs in recipes any 
> >>>more.
> >>>
> >>>Not sure about CodeGen Tool for TMS470 MCU and if there were newer 
> >>>releases or
> >>>if it's still active - nobody cared to update this recipe in over 10 years.
> >>>Other CGT recipes for ARM, PRU, C6x, C7x etc. in that recipes-ti/devtools
> >>>directory were kept mostly up to date, but not for TMS470. Not sure if 
> >>>there
> >>>are any downstream users anymore, maybe time to remove it...
> >>>
> >>
> >>I'll add a patch to drop codegen then. It'll be a little bit of a
> >>scream test but I'm sure it's fine. The C7 / C6 components I know
> >>still have a few dependents in meta-arago though, so I don't think
> >>those can be dropped. Will see if there is a non-clickwrapped source
> >>for those yet.
> >
> >Ah, there's still an older C6x CGT 7.4.16 that is clickwrapped - at some 
> >point
> >there was one component remaining that required it, while everything else got
> >migrated to C6x CGT 8.x, which enabled direct download and we have a recipe
> >for version 8.3.2 already. And the recipe for older 7.x was specifically in
> >its own namespace to allow both of them in the same build, until the last
> >dependency for it goes away.
> >
> >C7x CGT never was clickwrapped, as the arch is newer than those dark times :)
> >
> >BTW, assuming that meta-arago is the only consumer of meta-ti components is
> >not very safe.
> 
> Agreed.  We are already toying around with supporting OpenBMC which
> absolutely does not use arago.

Heh, and I was referring to customers, OEMs and the community at large. :)


> >But I think dropping CGT for TMS740 and old CGT 7.x for C6x
> >should be fine and those are the only remaining clickwrapped recipes.
> >
> >IIRC, TMS740 arch was an old ARM MCU, so generic ARM CGT should probably also
> >work, I guess.
> >
> >
> >>>>Also, is this URI
> >>>>functionality baked into the http fetcher or is this just leaning on
> >>>>bitbake being unable to resolve the domain and then falling back on
> >>>>the local copy?
> >>>
> >>>This is basic Bitbake fetcher functionality and is well documented. High 
> >>>level
> >>>order of operations to locate sources:
> >>>
> >>>1. Check if you already have them in your local DL_DIR
> >>>2. Go through the list of configured PREMIRRORS to locate the sources there
> >>>3. Actually hit the upstream SRC_URI and try to download the original src
> >>>4. If everything else fails, check through the list of "post" MIRRORS
> >>>
> >>>So, requiring user to pre-download the sources manually and placing them in
> >>>their local DL_DIR per the original documentation would shortcut the 
> >>>process
> >>>at step 1.
> >>>
> >>>Otherwise it would break at step 3 (and 4) and hopefully the weird URL 
> >>>would
> >>>give user some clues or at least force to read the docs...
> >>>
> >>>There's nothing special about the URL, besides the convention that .local 
> >>>is
> >>>reserved - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local - and the entire name
> >>>suggesting to install the sources in local dir :)
> >>>
> >>
> >>Ah, alright. At least this isn't that bad then. I still don't like
> >>the idea of being able to reach steps 3&4 in this case as it will
> >>check http sources. Local is reserved but it's still not a great
> >>idea to allow this fetch to go through, even if *ideally* it should
> >>fail to resolve.
> >
> >You can try adding do_fetch[network] = "0" to that recipe...
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