On Mon, 2026-02-09 at 09:11 -0600, Ryan Eatmon wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/9/2026 5:21 AM, Vitor Soares via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
> > Hi meta-ti maintainers,
> > 
> > We've hit an issue where selecting a BSP version (e.g. TI_PREFERRED_BSP =
> > "mainline") also forces initramfs integration via ti-soc.inc (lines 32-49).
> > The
> > bsp-mainline, bsp-next, and bsp-ti_6_18 overrides all unconditionally set
> > BUILD_CORE_INITRAMFS_IMAGE_STEP, TI_WKS_INITRAMFS, and IMAGE_BOOT_FILES.
> > 
> > This means we can't use bsp-mainline without also pulling in ti-core-
> > initramfs —
> > even when our images don't need it.
> > 
> > Since we can't use bsp-mainline, we also lose the correct override context
> > for
> > other components. For example, we end up having to manually override all the
> > mesa-pvr.inc virtual providers in our machine config to use upstream mesa —
> > something that bsp-mainline would handle naturally.
> > 
> > The root issue is that initramfs integration (an image-level concern) is
> > tied to
> > BSP version selection (a machine-level concern) in ti-soc.inc.
> > 
> > A possible fix would be to move the initramfs logic to an image class (e.g.
> > ti-
> > image.bbclass) that images explicitly opt into. This would be a breaking
> > change
> > for images relying on the current automatic behavior, but it would properly
> > separate these concerns.
> 
> I recognize what you are saying as an issue.
> 
> We are in the process of moving to require an initramfs for all of our 
> platforms as we transition to using modules for kernel features that the 
> upstream kernel is unwilling to turn on by default (to keep the kernel 
> small).  We have been turning these features on by default in our vendor 
> kernel, and we moving away from that.
> 
> So there is a need to balance our need to make sure that everything is 
> in place at the BSP level, and the need for downstream customers in 
> distro layers to build upon that initramfs and include their own changes.
> 
> As I see it, we have two options.
> 
> 1) Provide a mechanism to extend the ti-core-initramfs recipe to allow 
> you to put more stuff in there.
> 
> 2) Go the class route and make it so that your initramfs (using the 
> class) would make sure to include ALL of the needed modules into your 
> initramfs and still register your initramfs with the images.
> 
> Can you point me at the recipe that your initramfs is using so that we 
> can get an example of usage so we can plan for the best solution?
> 
> 

Thanks for the quick response.

For context: we don't plan to use initramfs (at least not currently) - our
images boot directly to rootfs. The issue is that selecting bsp-mainline forces
initramfs integration we don't need, and prevents us from benefiting from bsp-
mainline's other configurations.

Proposed solution:
Move initramfs logic from ti-soc.inc to classes/ti-image.bbclass, and images
that need initramfs explicitly inherit ti-image. This separates machine-level
BSP selection from image-level features (standard Yocto pattern). Breaking
change: your reference images need inherit ti-image added.

Thoughts?


> > Would this approach be welcome? We're happy to contribute patches.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Vitor Soares
> > Toradex
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.
View/Reply Online (#19475): 
https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-ti/message/19475
Mute This Topic: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/mt/117717310/21656
Group Owner: [email protected]
Unsubscribe: https://lists.yoctoproject.org/g/meta-ti/unsub 
[[email protected]]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Reply via email to