MetaCard List Digest Saturday, October 14 2000 Volume 04 : Number 009
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:16:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robin-David Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MetaCard List Digest V4 #8
It has been asked "what is the best way to burn metacard application to CDROM
for crossplatform use?"
I always use ISO-9960 for crossplatform.
[ sometimes i use ext2 FS for UNIX only stacks (front ends to unix comands that
dont have any meaning for MAC users ]
Firstly ensure that all file names are valid for ISO-9660 FS, and also valid for
the platform on which they will be needed.
If the name of a file used only by ULTRIX is valid on ISO9660 but isnt valid
under MACOS no big deal right.
i make a common directory ( all the stacks and .giff and .jpeg and .png and
other multimedia stuff ). If you wish to support DOS users, be advised that the
FAT file system that dos uses cannot understand dot-sufficies properly; each
file must have one and only one dot suffix and the suffix must be no more than 3
chars. "2000.oct.backup" is not valid for FAT FS. "2000-oct.bac" is much more
friendly. Watch out for any "*.tar.gz" files, make them ".tgz" et
cetera. ".jpeg" normaly becomes .jpg ; .mpeg=>.mpg ; .text=>.txt . two and one
letter sufficies are fine, as are files without a suffix.
if any non-MAC operating system cannot regonise a suffix it will not be able to
tell what kind of file it is dealing with. This may not be bad for .mpeg but for
.mc it cant be good.
then i make a directory for each platform. tell you users which platforms are
realy supported and which ones arnt "may work by accident not by design".
/68k-mac "680x0 or 68007 chipset"
/88k-mac "power pc chipset"
/x86-win "windows on intel 80x86 chipset"
/x86-linux
/x86-bsd
/ultrasparc-solaris
/21x64-Ultrix "ultrix on the Alpha chipset"
and place the complete installs (limited license) in here. The code normaly runs
straight of the read-only media. else the user can just cp it over to a hard
disk or what-not
place a readme.txt (remember the dos users*) file here, as well as the license
for metacard, and the software you wrote.
* there exists an ongoing dispute about how the end of lines are marked. UNIX
uses LF then DOS came along and decided to use LF and then a CR. then macOS said
to hell with the LF lets just use the CR. might as well use LF and CR, but only
at the end of paragraphs. usualy works out okay, macOS users get a square box on
the end of each paragraph,UNIX users get ^L or the like on the begining of
thiers.
you can also mirror the FTP site on metacard.com for those poor souls who dont
have ATM-FR. a 12 cm cdrom holds over 600MB an 8 cm cdrom hold over 100 MB,
might as well use it for something right?
ALL: please freely critique the above
please encorage metacard to develop a LINUX for SPARC or ULTRASPARC release!
robin-david hammond
lead systems engineer Knowledge Propulsion Laboratory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linearc.kplab.com www.bestweb.net/~muaddib
If all these sweet young things were laid end-to-end, I wouldn't be a
bit surprised.
-- Dorothy Parker
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:05:43 +0100
From: David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Funny little linux devices...
Small market at the moment but just wandering what would be needed to get
Metacard running on these Linux PDA's?
To quote from this review at http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/frame1.htm:
> The entire package is powered by a 206MHz ARM RISC microprocessor, has 32 MB
> of RAM and features a 4 inch TFT LCD touch screen capable of showing up to
> 65,536 colors at 240x320. It also includes 3D Audio, a Compact Flash slot
> (with support for digital cameras, t.v. tuners, and other devices), IrDA, and
> both USB and standard serial ports.
> While there's plenty here to make a garden-variety gadget freak quiver, Yopy's
> big draw for many in the Linux community is its use of Linux and the
> lightweight W Window System (not related to X's predecessor), which will open
> it up for the sort of hacking we've all come to expect on our desktops.
What would you need to check to see if devices like this coming to market
could run a Metacard app?
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:31:09 +0100
From: Gary Rathbone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Funny little linux devices...
Or/and PocketPC (windows CE) ? I've got an HP Jordana, brilliant piece of
kit, and I'd love to develop for it ........(Market is going to be massive
in Europe with the allocation of new high bandwidth phone licenses,
bluetooth and PDA's/Pocket PC's technology converging ...... MASSIVE !)
Gary Rathbone
on 12/10/00 20:05, David Bovill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Small market at the moment but just wandering what would be needed to get
> Metacard running on these Linux PDA's?
>
> To quote from this review at http://www.gmate.co.kr/english/frame1.htm:
>
>> The entire package is powered by a 206MHz ARM RISC microprocessor, has 32 MB
>> of RAM and features a 4 inch TFT LCD touch screen capable of showing up to
>> 65,536 colors at 240x320. It also includes 3D Audio, a Compact Flash slot
>> (with support for digital cameras, t.v. tuners, and other devices), IrDA, and
>> both USB and standard serial ports.
>
>> While there's plenty here to make a garden-variety gadget freak quiver,
>> Yopy's
>> big draw for many in the Linux community is its use of Linux and the
>> lightweight W Window System (not related to X's predecessor), which will open
>> it up for the sort of hacking we've all come to expect on our desktops.
>
> What would you need to check to see if devices like this coming to market
> could run a Metacard app?
>
>
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:16:47 -0700
From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recursive Search?
Has anyone written a recursive search script for searching out the existence
of a file in an unknown location on a user's hard drive?
Thanks & Regards,
Scott
_____________________________________________________________________
Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.tactilemedia.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:39:34 -0700
From: "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Storing arrays
Is the best way to store an array from one execution to the next to stuff
the values of the array into a text property with an appropriately-unique
delimiter? And then to grab the text property and rebuild the array the next
time around?
regards,
Geoff
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:36:38 -1000
From: Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cross Platform CD Creation
Thanks for the input so far. I have studied the
Toast procedures for ISO 9660 as well as for
a hybrid MAC/ISO cross platform CD.
Pretty straight forward. . .questions still remains:
>From what I understand about Windows, while sitting
at a MAC, just to put
mc.exe and
aFabulousStack.mc
as separate files into the ISO data for the CD
(whether you use complete ISO 9660 only or a hybrid.)
won't work.
if a Windows user clicks on
aFabulousStack.mc
It will not automatically run. So the question is
Can you, on a G4 Mac
1) download the installer for PC.
2) upzip it
3) isolate the file "mc.exe"
4) from within the standalone builder, select "mc.exe"
as your engine and build the standalone on the mac
5) copy this to the ISO portion of the CD
Will it autoboot then on a PC? I am trying to avoid
5-6 hours or experimentation and wasting half a dozen
Cd's here. Someone has already been through this to
be sure.
Or do you need to do all the above on a PC and put the
standalone on a floppy and try to somehow get that on
your MAC volume to burn into the ISO part?
Himalayan Academy Publications
Sivakatirswami
Editor's Assistant/Production Manager
www.HinduismToday.com
www.HimalayanAcademy.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:00:22 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Recursive Search?
XOS has this to find it's files should they move
but it's on a mac using the external GetDir from Rinaldi
i wont be able to pass it out soon though. You can download it at
www.monsieurx.com (follow xos)
The scripts are in the paths manager stack in the card name "stack" or maybe
the stack script.
Since im still porting XOS to MC, it will be a while before I get to that
part.
cheers,
Xavier
# -----Original Message-----
# From: Scott Rossi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
# Sent: 13 October 2000 00:17
# To: MetaCard List
# Subject: Recursive Search?
#
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# Has anyone written a recursive search script for searching
# out the existence
# of a file in an unknown location on a user's hard drive?
#
# Thanks & Regards,
#
# Scott
#
# _____________________________________________________________________
# Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
# Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Web: www.tactilemedia.com
#
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:44:01 +0100
From: David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Storing arrays
You can do this by using the custom properties of an object (which is stored
as an array). I can send you a script:
getStoredArray(arrayName, someObject)
setStoredArray arrayName, someObject, someArray
off-list if you want.
> From: "Geoff Canyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:39:34 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Storing arrays
>
> Is the best way to store an array from one execution to the next to stuff
> the values of the array into a text property with an appropriately-unique
> delimiter? And then to grab the text property and rebuild the array the next
> time around?
>
> regards,
>
> Geoff
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:40:48 -0400
From: Simon Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SGI Users
Anyone know of a plugin for netscape on the SGI that can play Sun's .au
format? I have a small web based training set of pages that require the
playback of audio on Mac, PC and SGI. The Mac and PC use either QT or MP to
play the .au files but the SGI has no such alternative by default.
- --
Cheers,
Simon
Graphic Development: http://www.amigo-3.com
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"The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found
it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny...." Isaac Asimov
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:45:34 -0700
From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recursive Search?
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> XOS has this to find it's files should they move
> but it's on a mac using the external GetDir from Rinaldi
>
> i wont be able to pass it out soon though. You can download it at
> www.monsieurx.com (follow xos)
> The scripts are in the paths manager stack in the card name "stack" or maybe
> the stack script.
Thanks Xavier. When I try to access
http://www.monsieurx.com/xos/stacks/Basics.sit
I get a file not found error. Where should I look for the paths manager
stack?
Thanks & Regards,
Scott
_____________________________________________________________________
Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.tactilemedia.com
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:07:23 +0200
From: Xavier Bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Recursive Search?
sorry about that... the site is a bit anarchic...
the downloads are now available...
remember they are in mac hypercard format still...
unfortunately, i have to fly to london tomorow
for a professional unforseen chance to click
3 times "ok" and pull down 3 menus... because
someone wants to cover their ass!
<< so i'll be short - i thought >> (ed.)
great weekend in perspective too! i missed a "free" deep purple
concert cause i got to wake up at 4AM to catch a plane but
you got your files, i fixed the xos downloads page! i'll check
the rest later maybe on sunday if im back...
the script... you should find enough materials in the following
stacks...
look in the stack scripts...
be warned that they will give trouble to MC's script syntax
checker... but that's a quick 10 minutes fix for all the stacks...
lest them work is another but i've had pleasant surprises...
Note: i've only tried to convert them to MC from a Mac...
it worked that way for me... i wouldn't try direct on Win...
home* - look at the card script of the preferences card
paths cards "stacks", "applications" and stack script
managers/files - functions premade!
Masters/Rinadis - GetDir is the best
come to think of it, in the xtraagents.sit file there
is the stack compaquer, that does that... xos is open
source so if you find improvements, their welcome!
in brief remember for MC that you have to choose scripts for platforms
so here's the pc version too. unix should be a simple ls apath statement
i think (Scott?)
on answerListfolders adir
answer folder "Please choose a folder to recurse"
if it is "" then exit answerListFolders
answer ListFolder(it)
end answerListFolders
function ListFolder apath,recurse
if the platform contains "win" then
return shell("pushd apath\ntree apath") -- is the \n correct for pcs?
or
return shell("pushd apath\ndir apath /whatever\npopd") -- is the \n
correct for pcs?
else
-- there's an osax Jon's OSAX that does it on the mac through
applescripts...
or with GetDir from Rinaldi (i think but Jon's got also a folder lister
that might...)
return GetDir(subpath,"FD+","o=p")
end if
end ListFolder
all options are free or almost...
why rewrite the wheel? ;)
have a good weekend!
Xavier
- --
what's this? friday the thirteen or something?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Rossi
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Recursive Search?
>
>
> Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > XOS has this to find it's files should they move
> > but it's on a mac using the external GetDir from Rinaldi
> >
> > i wont be able to pass it out soon though. You can download it at
> > www.monsieurx.com (follow xos)
> > The scripts are in the paths manager stack in the card name
> "stack" or maybe
> > the stack script.
>
> Thanks Xavier. When I try to access
>
> http://www.monsieurx.com/xos/stacks/Basics.sit
>
> I get a file not found error. Where should I look for the paths manager
> stack?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Scott
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
> Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: www.tactilemedia.com
>
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