MetaCard List Digest Monday, October 16 2000 Volume 04 : Number 011 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:53:50 +0200 From: Xavier Bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Standalone Configuration Utility but why use an external file when the stack is a file? you have a native and super easy way to store info in the cards, no need to mess around with and parse a file let alone adapt to go cross platform... create a card for the current stack, it remembers the stack's last use info, then for windows' prefs, same thing... i'll try to make a working stack or a procedure... Xavier > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Lord > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 5:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility > > > I just write as prefs file to the system folder like any other > app but it is > a pain for me to read it etc. I'd also like to see your SAC Scott (and > please forgive the way that sounded :^) > > -- > > Cheers, > Simon > > Graphic Development: http://www.amigo-3.com > > -------------------------------------------------- > "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! > I've found > it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny...." Isaac Asimov > > > From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:58:15 -0700 > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Standalone Configuration Utility > > > > Hello MC People: > > > > Those of you who repeatedly deliver your stacks in standalone > format might > > be in interested in this -- a small utility for saving and > recalling your > > standalone configurations. > > > > For some time now, SuperCard has had a great feature of being > able to save > > and recall the settings used to create your standalone > applications. I've > > often wished MC had something like this, so I created SAC (StandAlone > > Completer). SAC is an MC stack that allows you to do the > above: enter your > > standalone configuration info and save it on your drive for later use, > > sparing you the tedium of entering and re-entering your filenames, path > > names, version numbers, etc. > > > > This stack requires that you use the standard MC editing > environment, but > > it's built to be completely separate from the editor -- you can open and > > close it at will without any issues. > > > > It's optimized for Windows and Mac users, but unless UNIX requires > > additional info for standalones, it should work just the same. > > > > If any of you are interested, please message me off list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Scott > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design > > Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web: www.tactilemedia.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:18:31 +0200 From: "Sjoerd Op 't Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility Scott Rossi wrote/ schreef: > Those of you who repeatedly deliver your stacks in standalone format might > be in interested in this -- a small utility for saving and recalling your > standalone configurations. > <snip> > If any of you are interested, please message me off list. I would absolutely like to have it, but I suggest that if we have such a stack, to upload it to the contributors section, and simply give the URL, that makes it much easier for everyone. > Regards, > > Scott Regards, Sjoerd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:49:41 -0400 From: Simon Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility Because in my expeience I was never able to get data saved to a standalone. If a field is empty when the stack was built it will be empty the next time you load the standalone, regardless if the user put something in it. My solution was an external file. But then again, I have been working with SuperCard and MetaCard for 13 years. What's that saying? "you can't teach a monkey nothin', but soapy water always gets in yer eyes..." Something like that... - -- Cheers, Simon Graphic Development: http://www.amigo-3.com - -------------------------------------------------- "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny...." Isaac Asimov > From: Xavier Bury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:53:50 +0200 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Standalone Configuration Utility > > but why use an external file when the stack is a file? > you have a native and super easy way to store info > in the cards, no need to mess around with and parse a file > let alone adapt to go cross platform... create a card for the > current stack, it remembers the stack's last use info, then > for windows' prefs, same thing... i'll try to make a working > stack or a procedure... > > Xavier > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Lord >> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 5:07 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility >> >> >> I just write as prefs file to the system folder like any other >> app but it is >> a pain for me to read it etc. I'd also like to see your SAC Scott (and >> please forgive the way that sounded :^) >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, >> Simon >> >> Graphic Development: http://www.amigo-3.com >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! >> I've found >> it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny...." Isaac Asimov >> >>> From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:58:15 -0700 >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Standalone Configuration Utility >>> >>> Hello MC People: >>> >>> Those of you who repeatedly deliver your stacks in standalone >> format might >>> be in interested in this -- a small utility for saving and >> recalling your >>> standalone configurations. >>> >>> For some time now, SuperCard has had a great feature of being >> able to save >>> and recall the settings used to create your standalone >> applications. I've >>> often wished MC had something like this, so I created SAC (StandAlone >>> Completer). SAC is an MC stack that allows you to do the >> above: enter your >>> standalone configuration info and save it on your drive for later use, >>> sparing you the tedium of entering and re-entering your filenames, path >>> names, version numbers, etc. >>> >>> This stack requires that you use the standard MC editing >> environment, but >>> it's built to be completely separate from the editor -- you can open and >>> close it at will without any issues. >>> >>> It's optimized for Windows and Mac users, but unless UNIX requires >>> additional info for standalones, it should work just the same. >>> >>> If any of you are interested, please message me off list. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design >>> Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Web: www.tactilemedia.com >>> >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:24:11 -0700 From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility Simon Lord wrote: >> I just write as prefs file to the system folder like any other >> app but it is a pain for me to read it etc. Recently, Xavier Bury wrote: > but why use an external file when the stack is a file? Because for one thing, every time MetaCard is updated (or if you have to reinstall for some reason) you need to either replace the StandAlone Builder stack with your old one, or copy the cards from the old one into the new one. Using SAC keeps everything extensible and accessible. Regards, Scott __________________________________________________________________ Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 09:32:10 -0700 From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility Recently, Sjoerd Op 't Land wrote: > I would absolutely like to have it, but I suggest that if we have such a > stack, to upload it to the contributors section, and simply give the URL, > that makes it much easier for everyone. True, but I didn't know if there would be any interest in such a utility and I'm curious to see how many folks would actually use it. In fact, I am planning to post the URL of my server (which you received in my last email), or upload the stack to the XWorlds site. Regards, Scott __________________________________________________________________ Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:16:31 +0200 From: Wilhelm Sanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Multi-line tooltips, stack icons in Windows Is there a possibility to create multi-line tooltips? The procedure for button labels, putting \n between the lines, does not work.- How can you change the default Metacard stack icon on the Windows platform? I would like to have the same icon for a "menu.exe" standalone and the linked mc-stacks (i.e. not putting the mc-stacks as substacks into the standalone). Thanks for the possible suggestions, Wilhelm Sanke ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:36:54 -1000 From: Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Movies running with other Processes I am having two problems running movies with other processes. 1) I can't seem to get a movie to run simultaneously with other processes except another player. i.e. it IS possible to start two players both with movies (or sound) and start them both and they run at the same time. BUT I cannot get a movie to run while a move command is in progress. . example: move fld "theTitle" from -600,-600 to 400,400 in 4 secs start player "theMovie" line two of the above will not start until after four seconds have passed. If we swap the lines: start player "theMovie" move fld "theTitle" from -600,-600 to 400,400 in 4 secs it's worse: the movies starts, then on line two, the movie pauses 4 secs while the fld moves into view, then finishes. Any clues about this: It seems like an obvious need: all varieties of scripted animation running simultaneously while a movie is playing. Or is QuickTime a single process kind of guy inside Metacard? Probably I am just missing something. 2) I can't determine precisely how movie player decide to draw themselves-- whether or not they are to be - -- drawn on screen empty (ugly white box) - -- drawn on screen and filled with the first frame of the movie - -- played, stopped and left empty (ugly white box) even though the last frame of the movie has image data. e.g. start player "theMovie" wait 10 seconds stop player "theMovie" # movie now stops, long pause, empty white box appears # more pause then finally hide player "theMovie" #the player object disappears, finally. Now, I can script around this by hiding the player first then stopping the movie. I guess there are vRam update and screen refresh issues. . It would help to know what these are more precisely so we can code around them without a lot of trial and error, i.e. a "can do" "can't do" list. thanks! Hinduism Today Sivakatirswami Editor's Assistant/Production Manager www.HinduismToday.com www.HimalayanAcademy.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:10:12 +0100 From: Eva Isotalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Standalone Configuration Utility I'm also interested. Regards, Eva Scott Rossi wrote: > > ... I didn't know if there would be any interest in such a utility ....> ------------------------------ End of MetaCard List Digest V4 #11 **********************************
