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    001 - "Claude Lemmel" <opus.spe - Re: File Names
    002 - Scott Rossi <scott@tactil - Re: File Names
    003 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - RE: File Names
    004 - Kevin Miller <kevin@runre - Re: File Size?
    005 - Craig Spooner <cspooner@l - Re: Change of list software
    006 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]        - Re: File Names

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From: "Claude Lemmel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File Names
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:09:03 +0200
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: File Names
>
> I'm developing a program to be cross platform and I want to access a
common
> set of files.  I use more than 8 letters in the name and then the Windows
> extension.  I need the extra letters to clarify the files for end users.
The
> problem is that when I try to read these files from my Mac, it truncates
them
> to 8 letters (as in the 8 + 3 extension scheme).  Thus "PROJECTION"
becomes
> "PROJEC~1".  The program then does not recognize the file because the name
is
> changed.  Is there a way to tell the Mac to not do this?
>
> Philip Chumbley

I guess you developp on Windows. If you burn a cdrom from Windows, Mac is
too stupid to read the long filenames of a iso9660 CD.
You have to transfert all the files on the mac and to burn from the mac

A painfull way, but i dont know an other one :
- compact all your windows files with some zip utility into a big pc2mac.zip
file
- copy the pc2mac.zip zip file on a cdrom
- copy the cdrom on the mac
- decompress on the mac (a recent version of alladdin or unstuffit do the
job) : the long names and the hierachy of the folders are OK
- burn from the mac an hybrid CDROM (ie mac partition + iso9660) with Toast.

You get a cross platform cd-rom what accept long names on both mac and pc.

Be carefull : do not use high ascii characters in the file names ; both mac
and windows accept that, but the high ascii characters are not the same from
one platform to the other one.

If you plan to use also a linux version, convert all the filenames to
lowercase in your soft (including filename properties) and on your disk.

Hope it helps.

Claude





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From: Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File Names
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:15:57 -0700
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Recently, Claude Lemmel wrote:

> A painfull way, but i dont know an other one :
> - compact all your windows files with some zip utility into a big pc2mac.zip
> file
> - copy the pc2mac.zip zip file on a cdrom
> - copy the cdrom on the mac
> - decompress on the mac (a recent version of alladdin or unstuffit do the
> job) : the long names and the hierachy of the folders are OK
> - burn from the mac an hybrid CDROM (ie mac partition + iso9660) with Toast.

Long file names beyond 32 characters won't stay intact on the Mac.  Unless
someone has found a magic way to this, it is supposedly impossible to create
hybrid CDs with long filenames (according to the people at Adaptec).  For
cross platform use, best thing to do is make sure all filenames are no
longer than 32 characters total.

FWIW,

Scott

__________________________________________________________________
Scott Rossi                    Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
Creative Director              Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                               Web: www.tactilemedia.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: File Names
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:16:51 +0200
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dont forget to remove any diacritical characters also...
accents, slashes and backslaches, semicolons, etc... are illegal...

To go from Mac to PC, there's an excellent shareware called renameit (you
can find it at www.versiontracker.com) that does an excellent job.

Cheers,
Xavier

# -----Original Message-----
# From: Scott Rossi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
# Sent: 26 October 2000 09:16
# To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Subject: Re: File Names
# 
# 
# Recently, Claude Lemmel wrote:
# 
# > A painfull way, but i dont know an other one :
# > - compact all your windows files with some zip utility into 
# a big pc2mac.zip
# > file
# > - copy the pc2mac.zip zip file on a cdrom
# > - copy the cdrom on the mac
# > - decompress on the mac (a recent version of alladdin or 
# unstuffit do the
# > job) : the long names and the hierachy of the folders are OK
# > - burn from the mac an hybrid CDROM (ie mac partition + 
# iso9660) with Toast.
# 
# Long file names beyond 32 characters won't stay intact on the 
# Mac.  Unless
# someone has found a magic way to this, it is supposedly 
# impossible to create
# hybrid CDs with long filenames (according to the people at 
# Adaptec).  For
# cross platform use, best thing to do is make sure all filenames are no
# longer than 32 characters total.
# 
# FWIW,
# 
# Scott
# 
# __________________________________________________________________
# Scott Rossi                    Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
# Creative Director              Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#                                Web: www.tactilemedia.com
# 
# 
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From: Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File Size?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:13:48 +0100
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On 26/10/00 12:58 am, Scott Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to get the file size of a file in a specified directory.  Going
> back through the list archives, I found the following (slow but workable)
> script:
> 
> put 0 into tBytes
> open file tFile
> repeat while the result is not "eof"
> read from file tFile for 100000 characters
> put the number of characters in it + tBytes into tBytes
> end repeat
> close file tFile
> 
> This works and seems to come within 100 bytes of the actual file size of the
> file, but I'm wondering if I missed some built-in command in MC that is able
> to get the same info more quickly?  I could use a larger character number in
> the repeat loop, but I want to be sensitive to low memory situations.
> 
> (I also checked the size property, but apparently this can only be used on
> objects within a stack, not external to the stack.)

You can get the size of files on Windows / UNIX using the shell() command.
You can also check the size of a file by doing:

put the number of characters in URL ("file:"&tFilePath)

But of course this is not very efficient as it reads the entire file into
memory to get the figure...

Regards,

Kevin

> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Scott
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Scott Rossi                       Tactile Media - Multimedia & Design
> Creative Director                 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: www.tactilemedia.com

Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.runrev.com/>
Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing).
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From: Craig Spooner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change of list software
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:17:37 -0600
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Whew!  The summary header for the digest is back!  Hurray.

Thanks, Kevin.

Craig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: File Names
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:02:33 EDT
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Thanks everyone.  The longest filenames I have are around 15 letters.  Based 
on the information given, I should be able to use my ZIP drive to move them 
to the Mac.

Philip Chumbley


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