I changed the subject line to the real thread here.
Andu wrote:
> I see this is turning nasty and for no good reason.
Well, I don't do "nasty" so don't worry. ...just trying to understand
issues, that's all.
> Simon's offering of free server space *and* Metacard engine for testing
> cgi scripts should be appreciated.
It is, very much so. And any restrictions or guidelines he requests will be
gladly complied with. All on the same team etc...
> Calling a cgi from a stack or a browser should make no difference to the
> server,
That gets back to the issue: if an html file on a server in Honolulu calls a
CGI on a server in Canada, it appears as an "outside referrer" The question
I have that still remains unanswered: if that same CGI is called by a
Metacard stack from a CD that is put in a hard drive in UK, that I burned
here in Hawaii. . .I presume it is also seen as an "outside call/referrer"
correct?
> what the cgi script does is a another matter and could become a
> security concern.
Yes, that is another matter altogether.
> What I don't understand is why you don't do preliminary
> testing/debugging on a local machine,
How is that possible? "Local machine" means on our LAN and we only run MAC
g4's...no UNIX boxes acting as web servers with Apache/MC installed... no
http servers...
> which is much easier and if there
> is a security issue you don't compromise a public server ...
> I think your web host would feel much better about this if he was left
> with the impression that you know what you're doing.
Very true...and ... CGI wise, I am admittedly a newbie...no question about
it. The "problem" is...MC is just "too easy." I wrote a small .mt script
that processes a web form submission with about 1/3 the lines that are in a
PERL script that does the same thing. And the xTalk version was just so much
clearer!... and it made perfect sense to just "go for it." I think a lot of
CGI/HTTP protocol newbies who know xTalk well...will probably feel the same
way. And if Kevin's marketing goes well, there will be a LOT more of us on
board real soonWe are under the impression that MC poses no more threat to a server
than a
PERL 4 interpreter, which most WEB hosts offer without any awareness of
their client's ability to possibly "get dangerous" because they don't know
what they are doing.
So....
a) trying to understand the outside referrer business for CGI's called from
distributed stacks and
b) still confused as to the extent that MC can be a threat to a mainstream
WEB hosting service in the hands of a CGI novice who also has equal access
to a PERL and PHP interpreters.
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