| So.... 
| a) trying to understand the outside referrer business for CGI's called from
| distributed stacks and


        Swamaji,

        Everyone is a novice in some area!  Let us not hesitate to speak
        here in the assembled of the learned even if we don't know what
        we are talking about.

        That said, I might be completely wrong, but I don't think HOL
        is paying any attention to referrers.  EG, in that formmail.pl
        script we used - the widely known one from Matt's archive -
        there is code that checks the referrer.  We just took it out.  .
        I had people calling that script from all kinds of places,
        Calif to NY - no problemo.

        Since we will be the authors of the cgi programs, we don't have
        to put referrer checks in.  HOL won't be paying attention to
        where our programs are being called from.  That's my possibly
        undereducated view point.  IE, nothing to worry about.
        Unless they have changed something.


| b) still confused as to the extent that MC can be a threat to a mainstream
| WEB hosting service in the hands of a CGI novice who also has equal access
| to a PERL and PHP interpreters.

        I think Andu and I agree, there is no more threat.      The issue
        is convincing HOL.
        
        It's possible when he is talking about bandwith he is referring
        to cpu cycles and indicating MC may take more of them to do its
        processing - I don't want to put words in his mouth though.
        I think that would be a moot point in your case, with such
        comparitively small scripts.  If it actually did become an
        issue on HOL - meaning - if they notice our programs bogging
        their server down - we could consider rewriting the pig jobs
        (oops, no offense to pigs intended, just industry slang) in a
        compiled language.  Now, compiled programs, there's where HOL
        should really be scared if they dont have their security down
        pat, but I think they do.  However, there is nothing to stop
        us from writing C for Sun O/S, compiling and installing it on
        their server.  They are not preventing this, so no reason they
        should worry about MC, IMHO.

        It's possible he means bandwidth in terms of number bytes uploaded
        per time frame - your site already gets a lot of traffic and I
        don't believe they are charging for useage, right?   So that is
        a non issue too.

        Sadhu

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