Shari,

You should have more faith and trust in OpenSource.

To begin with, many many dozens of old HyperCard stacks still run on MC...
Then you have the great many _javascript_, java, PHP or C source codes on the net - many more than any commercial company can output in 20 years...
I haven't found many that didn't work! Compare that to the many "professionaly built programs" that dont!

If you dont believe or contribute to opensource, it it not going to get better. But it will and without you!
MC is gone that way IMOHO... The engine is awesome, the GUI, well,
I dont have much positive to say about it... But it's far more inviting than RR.
RR on the other hand is much more complete, and professional looking - it's just a bit overloaded IMOHO.

The problem is that nothing is perfect! I always thought Lotus Notes would be great to use since it's quite
close to XOS or even metacard (in phylosophy) but now I've tried it, Im puking all over every feature it has
that doesn't work correctly or does incorrectly...

But in this perfect world, we like you rumbling Shari!

BTW my Control Browser (and there are others!) is far beyond any you have seen in RunRev or MetaCard...
Simpler, faster, more power and definitely no bloat!

If one or 2 persons would have helped, it would be beyond your wildest dreams with more features and less bugs than any other
product. You can get an "outdated" preview at
[http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=100]

Yesterday, I did something amazing: I just copied/pasted a "script editor" grouped-object from XOS into the script editor of the control browser,
and other than the save script script, it worked right off. Less bugs, more standards, more features...

You choose... You can sort the columns, collapse the window with a double click or even search all the stack items and their controls!
Im also working on making changes to more than one item, and versioning, custom props, themes, styles, etc... and OpenSource!!!

Soon and thanks to ClipperX text-editor grouped-object you will even have html text editing and the rest...
Additive is a quality for XOS and most of my software - I keep hearing GREAT, woah!, etc... You be the judge.

I just never get many comments, help or bug reports... Let alone investment requests or incentiveware fees! Not even a beer!
So Im not motivated to help anymore more... Too much leeching. But I do it for my own development and couldn't live without it!

As far as marketing, I can tell you that a running product will sell. A nicely designed program will sell better but not longuer.
New features and GUI design is what sells upgrades... So I hope this works for RR and it's new users...

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>If this is all you worry about, you can rest easy.  I'll continue to
>be a part of the engine development team for the foreseeable future,
>and though my control over the direction of the technology and
>management will be greatly diminished, I have complete confidence in
>the team at Runtime Revolution.  They're just better managers and
>marketers than I ever was ;-)

Scott,

If you learn any new marketing tricks, let us know!  They say that
developers often make the worst marketers, which is why it is so
difficult to succeed in this business.  We'd rather stay glued to the
keyboard and code, than pound the pavements strutting our stuff.

Kinda reminds me of Apple/Windows.  Apple had the better product, but
Billy was the marketing genius, and so snatched up the majority of
marketshare.

If I am understanding this, in the future, if you took the Rev
engine, but replaced the stacks (Home, Help, Metacard Menubar, etc.)
with the current MC stacks, it would run?

There were features I liked about Rev when I tried it, like sorting
the contents of the Control Browser.  There were other features that
got in the way, though I truthfully don't recall what they were.

I don't have a lot of faith in Open Source carrying a product into
the future as something you can rely on for years to come.  I'm not
aware of an open source program that has been around for at least 10
years, is stable, and of this magnitude.  Since nobody makes money
from open source, there is nothing to keep it alive but heart, and
that usually fades with time.

Sometimes new blood in a company is a positive thing.  Sometimes not.
I still bitch every time I use OSX, as it is so Windows-like.   I
miss being able to double click the title bar to collapse a window
(yes I know you can get programs to do this, but before, we didn't
have to).  I despise having to go thru "Are you sure you want to..."
dialogs every time I click a button.  I miss being able to color
folders, so that certain ones stand out and remind me of something.

I can only hope this change will be a GOOD thing.  It wouldn't have
mattered to me if Scott added a lot of features, as long as the
engine was kept up to date with the computer platforms, and of course
if a major change occurred in the computer world, that it would be
integrated.  (Such as when computers added color, and Hypercard
tacked it on but never truly integrated it as they should have.)

Yes I am rambling.  Where I should be off doing things that need to
be done by Friday to get ready for the Shareware Industry
Conference.....

Shari C
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