Chipp Walters wrote:

Any idea on when we will see 'flip IDE' ?

We are just patiently wait for fixes and for flip ID plug in :)

I just uploaded the alpha to: <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/files/Extras/>

It's a far cry from where it's headed, but at least the raw basics are in place, switching from Rev to MC within the same session.


Installation ------------

Just quit Rev, put it in your Rev Plugins folder, and start Rev again.



How to use it
-------------

1. Choose Development->Plugins->FlipsIDE

   1a. The first time you run it you'll want to click
       the "Setup..." button, where there's currently
       a button to point it to your copy of the MC IDE
       (that UI will in beta, but at least you can get
       started).

2. Choose MC IDE from the option control in its main window
   - that's it: it should purge all Rev elements from memory
   and then load the MC IDE.

3. You should be able to flip back into Rev by just choosing Revolution from the option control.



Known issues
------------

DISCLAIMER: FlipsIDE IS KNOWN TO CAUSE A HARD CRASH IN THE ENGINE. USE ONLY WITH BACKUP FILES, AND AT YOUR OWN RISK.

It still has an intermittent crash, but much less often with the very latest engine than with earlier onces (thanks to Kevin for his efforts to resolve this).

Recipe: Flip back and forth between MC and Rev a lot, using the Message Box in each with a "put" command (e.g., "put the name of me").

The crash is caused by the engine keeping a hard internal reference to the stack used as the Message Box. Flipping from one IDE to another changes the Message Box, so the engine does not know where to direct "put"s to.

This is 90% resolved in engine v2.6b8. In earlier versions you could flip into MC pretty reliably, and often flip back into Rev with no issue. But flipping into MC a second time would often cause the crash as soon as a "put" command is issued.

Currently I need to flip back and forth a lot to make the crash happen, something few users would do in actual practice.

Just the same, if you get a crash please let me know which IDE you were in when it happened, how many times you had flipped back and forth before the crash, and if on a Mac please include the crash log.


Future enhancements -------------------

The final version will work from modules residing in a subfolder of the Plugins folder, probably to be called something cryptic like "FlipsIDE Modules".

Each modile will be simply a stack file with a stack script containing two handlers: one for loading a specified IDE and one for purging it.

It will ship with at least two prefab modules, one for MC and one for running with no IDE at all.

It will be easy to write the load/purge handlers, so we could see modules for any third party set of tools that comprises a complete development environment.

From the list of installed modules you'll be able to set one as a default, so that launching Rev with FlipsIDE installed will cause FlipsIDE to automatically flip into the specified IDE if desired.



I was hoping to resolve the crash issue before making it available, but if you folks want to test please feel free to lend a hand -- WORKING ON BACKUP FILES of course. :)

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 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Media Corporation
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