My update is finished and ready to be turned into a standalone. I have ALWAYS used Metacard for this. But my version of Metacard didn't have Macintel options, so I downloaded v.2.8.1 and decided to try something different: creating the standalone in Revolution rather than Metacard. Call it the hassle factor avoidance, of turning 2.8.1 Rev into 2.8.1 Metacard. I figured this was the perfect time to really dig into Revolution, as I knew there were things it had that the Metacard GUI was lacking, that I wanted. So....

First thing I notice is... I must open the stack to create the standalone. Eeeech. The last thing I do before turning into a standalone is run a series of resettings then quit. Revolution requires the stack to be open, which resets all the settings. Okay, I can get around this. Not a critical issue.

The next thing I notice is that I can't get around this, because Revolution doesn't like that I have embedded Ask/Answer stacks already, as well as File Selector and the whole shebang of embedded stacks for a standalone. They have just always resided in the stack. But it won't let me run any code that uses them. It doesn't even offer the option. It growls out error after error. Okay, so I'll take them out and reinstall them on Standalone Build, right?

But the application stack doesn't stay open on launch. It's just a Hello window, and launches an embedded stack. So I'm in the embedded stack, is Rev going to install any standalone needs into it rather than the mainstack? I dunno. I don't want to find out by experimenting.

I try finding a comprehensive tutorial on creating standalones in Revolution, nothing. I tried every search option available except Google. Nothing. Far as I can tell, the help docs don't offer up anything, and the search functions miss the wonderful tutorial I know that Jacqueline wrote. I could find it without Rev's help, I've got it bookmarked I'm sure, but (snotty attitude) hey, part of what I wanted from Rev was to be able to find answers for me from within the app. This was supposed to be a feature. As Seven would say: It failed.

I quit out of the stack to ponder this further. I get a ton of errors, because I have stacks embedded that it doesn't like.

I've been creating standalones for years, this shouldn't be hard!

I was pretty gung ho on giving the Revolution GUI a real chance. I was excited. I'd be gaining things. I was actually considering a complete move from the Metacard GUI to the Rev GUI... But...... Metacard is looking happier and happier.............

I'm not ready to give up, changes mean bumps, so I have an epiphany. Launch it, remove the stacks, and surely it will let me put them back in during the app build...... I can't find anywhere in the stack preferences window to allow me to custom install chosen stacks. I never got to the actual standalone window. But I figure this will sort itself out somehow. Right now, the goal is to just be able to launch the stack without triggering errors, and set the standalone building preferences.

But this fails. Revolution did something to the stack on the first launch, so now that stack won't even launch. It is broken.

I go back to an earlier save. Launch, remove embedded stacks, quit. But this doesn't appease Revolution. It doesn't like my stack. It breaks it. Once I launch it, it will launch the first time, but no matter what changes I make inside of it, once I quit, I cannot relaunch it. It attempts a launch then quits.

The earlier save yet again...... I try to find the script it is triggering (and shouldn't be) thru the nifty Search All Embedded Stacks, but the script isn't found. The script in question automatically quits if the main stack isn't loaded. The main stack should absolutely be loaded. So Revolution changed something, and now the external stack doesn't recognize the main stack. (There are both embedded stacks and external ones.)

Then my mouse breaks. Or Revolution freezes. I don't know which. I replace the batteries in my mouse. Nada. No cursor movement. I try replacing them again with non-rechargeables. Still nada. I'm getting the snotty feeling that it's a Revolution freeze. I finally resort to a wired mouse and I am miserable. It wasn't Revolution, my mouse batteries went poof. (Or maybe it stomped on them, too?)

I poke around a few more times, trying to appease Revolution. All I wanted to do was create a standalone from an existing, happy stack. But Revolution is like an ogre, stomping all over the place huffing and puffing, and it hates me.

Now I give up. This is ridiculous. This shouldn't be so hard. Geez, I've done this a million times.

Half the day is gone and I've accomplished nothing. So now it's back to turning Revolution into Metacard, so me and my stacks can float happily along again.

To all of you who maintain the incredible INCREDIBLE Metacard GUI, I LOVE YOU!

Shari

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