On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 4:19:16 PM UTC+1, Norman Megill wrote:
>
> On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 5:51:18 AM UTC-5, Alexander van der Vekens 
> wrote:
>>
>> As far as I can remember, idi was *inserted*  by 'minimize' in some 
>> cases, and I had to remove it manually. Unfortunately, I do not know when 
>> and in which context this appeared, but I think the concerned theorem was 
>> not marked as "usage discouraged"...
>> Maybe there was an error which was fixed meanwhile - I will come back to 
>> this if it happens again.
>>
>
> There are situations where idi will temporarily shorten an inefficient 
> proof during 'minimize', showing up in its 'decreased' list at the 
> beginning of the run.  This can happen when the proof has 2 different 
> subproofs for the same fact, with the idi attaching the shorter subproof to 
> its hypothesis.  But (unless you are using discouraged theorems) the idi 
> itself should be removed later in the minimize run.  If you see an idi 
> remaining (even after 'minimize * /override'), let me know and I'll look at 
> it.
>

I encountered this also (a minimization introducing idi but not removing 
it).  This was probably due to a small bug of minimize_with in the versions 
around 0.178--0.179 (for it to work properly, you had to save the proof, 
exit MM-PA, then re-enter it and minimize).  Norm has corrected this bug, 
and indeed I didn't see this behavior again.

BenoƮt

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