Thank you. I'm pretty sure that was the message I was thinking of. It sounds like the separate symbols for ordinal less than and less than or equal were very early (well before anything which is in git, which starts with something Norm called set.mm.1998-03-16-from-vax).

On 7/21/22 23:24, savask wrote:
>I remember Norm wrote a message to the mailing list (which I'm not sure how to find) about why we use e. and C_ for ordinal less than and ordinal no greater than, rather than having, say, <o and <_o (I think he even said we tried the latter for a while).

I think you mean the following post of Norm about philosophy and goals of set.mm: https://groups.google.com/g/metamath/c/mnkBQV1_cXc/m/zz4C8_2KAAAJ The paragraph "rules for introducing new definitions" is especially relevant.
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