To Jim.

I feel like a big problem with metamath is that it just isn't satisfying 
without some foundational understanding of mathematical logic.  Sure, you 
can follow proofs and see that each step is justified by digging down 100 
layers, but it's not pretty.  For motivation on how to construct proofs 
from scratch and feel confident, you really need to understand classical 
logic from a higher perspective.  Sure, there are tools that fill in the 
gaps for you, but I'm the kind of person that really needs to understand 
all the nuts and bolts to feel good about something.  It's also hard to 
convince myself that I understand a topic if I am not able to explain it to 
others.  Writing a pdf is the way I'm learning.

I think I might need to invest in a better text.  I've been trying to read 
Introduction to Mathematical Logic by Mandelson (because I found it for 
free), but can't stand the layout.  The author does nothing to make 
important definitions stand out and the proofs are all jammed into a single 
paragraph and not always worded well either.  I do have a good text on ZFC 
set theory ("Axiomatic Set Theory" by Suppes) and have taken a class on 
that a long time ago.  It just isn't super formal and doesn't cover logic 
or proof theory at all.  I'd like to find a better introduction to logic 
but I'd hate to buy a clone of Mendelson.  It's tough to tell how good a 
text is based on reviews.

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 7:08:50 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:

> On 7/4/23 15:07, Marshall Stoner wrote:
>
> > What I'm writing is not directly connected with meta-math, but 
> > something that I feel could help explain it better for novices
>
> I'd advise you to follow where the inspiration leads you. If you end up 
> with something which has a lot of metamath notation and reference to 
> metamath theorems by name, that's great, and may indeed be helpful to 
> put on the web site in one form or another if you want to contribute it 
> in that fashion. If what you want to do (in terms of how it makes sense 
> to present the material or whatever) ends up diverging more from 
> metamath in detail and ends up being more of a general logic textbook, 
> that's cool too.
>
>
>

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