Hi, and what about when you do have both T and Ti? Do you know how I then 
should go to Td?

Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2023 om 19:02:08 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:

> From my understanding the non-trivial case is when you have Ti, but 
> neither T nor Td.  I think most theorems in the set.mm database have a 
> deductive or closed form somewhere, but you might have to use a proof 
> assistance tool to search based on the form if the name isn't obvious.  
> When writing your own theorems/lemmas you should always put an arbitrary 
> antecedent before every hypothesis so you are always in deductive form.   
> To use a deductive form theorem you need to first obtain matching 
> antecedents for each hypothesis used.  You can use "a1i" to add antecedents 
> to the left hand side, then use "imp" or "exp" to convert chained 
> antecedents into conjunctions that you can change the order of using 
> commutative and associative properties.
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-4 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>> Also, the website states:
>>
>> "As noted earlier, we can also easily convert any assertion T in closed 
>> form to its related assertion Ti in inference form by applying ax-mp 
>> <https://us.metamath.org/mpeuni/ax-mp.html>. The challenge, when working 
>> formally, can sometimes occur when converting some arbitrary assertion T in 
>> inference form into a related assertion Td in deduction form" 
>>
>> Still, are there some examples or are there general guidelines that will 
>> help with this process? How would I go about converting Ti to Td in the 
>> example stated above (or from Ti to T)?
>>
>> Again, many thanks!
>> Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2023 om 17:02:33 UTC+2 schreef [email protected]:
>>
>>> On 8/15/23 07:49, David A. Wheeler wrote: 
>>> > Maybe we should note something in trud. 
>>>
>>> Ooh, good idea. I hadn't thought of that as a mitigation. Submitted as 
>>> https://github.com/metamath/set.mm/pull/3388 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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