Another remark, when starting from all challenge proofs from w4, i.e. by 
adding the result of
./pmGenerator --unfold data/w4.txt -f -n -t 
CpCqp,CCpCqrCCpqCpr,CCNpNqCqp,Cpp,CCpqCCqrCpr,CCNppp,CpCNpq -o 
data/tmp2.txt -d
to w4-dProofs-GG.txt before proof compression, there are further reductions 
w4: (A2: 13819↦4215, L1: 11989↦2385).


[email protected] schrieb am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2025 um 
06:14:09 UTC+1:

> > Hopefully everything is right. Fingers crossed.
>
> So it seems! As far as I can see, it reduces to 2437 steps towards L1 
> using --transform -z, but I only used the five theorems from w4.mm (which 
> are ax1, id, luk1, luk2, th0), not the inferences — but you could still 
> use their greatest subproofs of theorems as well. I attached my translation 
> of your entire w4.mm to this mail (with inferences commented out).
>
> $ ./pmGenerator -c -n -s CpCCNqCCNrsCtqCCrtCrq --parse 
> data/w4-dProofs-GG.txt -f -n -s -d -o data/tmp.txt --transform data/tmp.txt 
> -f -n -t CCNpCCNqrCspCCqsCqp,CpCqp,Cpp,CCNppp,CCpqCCqrCpr -p -2 -d
> > There are 3 steps towards CCNpCCNqrCspCCqsCqp / CCN0CCN1.2C3.0CC1.3C1.0 
> (index 0).
> > There are 59 steps towards CpCqp / C0C1.0 (index 13).
> > There are 465 steps towards Cpp / C0.0 (index 21).
> > There are 1703 steps towards CCNppp / CCN0.0.0 (index 22).
> > There are 9513 steps towards CCpqCCqrCpr / CC0.1CC1.2C0.2 (index 23).
> Using -z in the end resulted in:
> > There are 3 steps towards CCNpCCNqrCspCCqsCqp / CCN0CCN1.2C3.0CC1.3C1.0 
> (index 0).
> > There are 59 steps towards CpCqp / C0C1.0 (index 13).
> > There are 465 steps towards Cpp / C0.0 (index 21).
> > There are 1703 steps towards CCNppp / CCN0.0.0 (index 22).
> > There are 2437 steps towards CCpqCCqrCpr / CC0.1CC1.2C0.2 (index 23).
>
> Spoiler: My incoming w4:L1 will still be multiple times smaller (currently 
> 827, unphased by compressing with your proofs of theorems :-), and even 
> w4:id went down to 361 steps.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *Von:* [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von 
> Gino Giotto <[email protected]>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2025 22:40
> *An:* Metamath
> *Betreff:* [Metamath] Re: Upcoming contributions to proof minimization 
> challenges 
>  
> I might have something. I created a Metamath database for Walsh's fourth 
> axiom https://github.com/GinoGiotto/w4.mm and my proof for luk1 seems 
> shorter than the current one. 
>
> Preliminary information:
>
> - All theorems are complete and verified with metamath.exe.
>
> - I saved all proofs in the normal format because the compressed one shows 
> a lower step count (yes, this makes the database very big).
>
> - The command "SHOW TRACE_BACK luk1 /COUNT /ESSENTIAL" says that "The 
> proof would have 9513 steps if fully expanded back to
> axiom references." which is lower than the 11989 step count in the table.
>
> So, if the metamath.exe count is correct and if I have not made rookie 
> mistakes then I have a shortening of luk1 in w4. I am not 100% confident 
> that everything is fine until I translate it into condensed detachment and 
> verify it with pmGenerator.
>
> This email is just to claim my (potential) result before the new proofs 
> arrive. I'm probably going to do the translation tomorrow or the day after 
> tomorrow, and I will also attempt to shorten the proof further with the 
> automatic compression algorithm. Hopefully everything is right. Fingers 
> crossed.
>
>
> Il giorno lunedì 6 gennaio 2025 alle 12:44:29 UTC+1 
> [email protected] ha scritto:
>
>> In probably at most a few weeks, I will post some weighty proof 
>> minimizations.
>> I don't know if anyone else is currently working on those, but in this 
>> case I would suggest to hurry up. :-)
>>
>>
>>    - In Metamath's pmproofs.txt challenge 
>>    <https://us.metamath.org/mmsolitaire/pmproofs.txt>, I am reducing at 
>>    least *38 proofs* by at least * 1420 steps* total.
>>
>>
>>    - In my minimal 1-base challenge 
>>    <https://github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator/discussions/2>, I am reducing 
>>    at least *22 proofs* by at least *99312 steps* total.
>>
>>
>> I am throwing a lot of computing power at a new proof compression 
>> <https://github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator/discussions/3> algorithm that I 
>> will release as part of pmGenerator 
>> <https://github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator> along with these contributions.
>>
>> Afterwards, it will be *extremely difficult* to make further non-tiny 
>> contributions (unless I missed something significant).
>>
>>
>> — Samiro Discher
>>
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