Meteorite List,

Recall: 
Both my sister Ann Cain (who opened the email account) and I, Glyn Howard, use 
the same email account:

Ann Cain, Glyn Howard
gfndit(at)hotmail.com



This has been a long time coming ... for many years now I have been a reader of 
the Meteorite List.

I know this discovery sounds Wow! Unbelievable. Surreal. Pick your adjective. 
But it is what is is. All the physical empirical evidences prove it. I'm not in 
fear of re-confirmation. I welcome it. I know what it is. It's all repeatable 
(empirical). 

I appreciate well-known PhD members from the Meteorite List who have contacted 
me off-line. I will respond. Please give me time.


The evidence for the typical Mars meteorite key type specimens for this 
discovery:

GSA and GSB

http://gfoundit-mars.com/TheEvidence.html

http://gfoundit-mars.com/TheEvidenceGSA.html

http://gfoundit-mars.com/TheEvidenceGSB.html


The Gallery of US World Record Mars Meteorite specimens:

http://gfoundit-mars.com/GalleryOfImages.html


I will be putting-up/finishing the gallery of World Record Mars meteorite 
specimens by this Passover.



I do not want to hurt anyone's professional reputation. I'm not a mean or 
vengeful person. The full complete back story and certain people's identities 
will remain private. Just know there is a private history in the background of 
this incredible discovery and full story. Several very well known PhDs at 
Universities in the meteoritics community, who are meteorite analysts, members 
of the Meteoritcal Society, and perhaps at times over the years have even 
posted here on the Meteorite List, have held some of these specimens in their 
hands, have done tests. They know. I knew they were meteorites before I came to 
them. I knew that they were achondrites. However, at the time I couldn't prove 
the parent body. I didn't know how.

The moment I wasn't willing to share or reveal the discovery site is the moment 
the road-blocks, the walls, the disinformation began toward me. (Extrusive 
igneous Dacite, an evolved lava, is not a sedimentary rock! Lol.) We've seen 
this kind of behavior in the meteoritcs community before. It's nothing new, 
sadly. This is a dark history of the meteoritics world unfortunately. How many 
very rare important discoveries have been lost to the world of science and to 
mankind because those in research and academia  have played unethical games of 
gate-keeping and have refused to just do their job and just do pure science and 
do the analysis honestly and ethically without games, without gate-keeping, 
without attempting to wrestle from the discoverer the original discovery site? 
The discoverer has a right to withhold the discovery site to guard their 
discovery and its full value, and to protect it. How many people over the many 
years couldn't persevere against this wall, this unethical gate-keeping because 
they didn't have the prerequisite  skills or knowledge and they weren't able to 
realize that they were lied to or purposefully fed disinformation, and as a 
result had to walk away and give up, with an incredible treasure of scientific 
knowledge and wealth in their hand? It could of been very different. It could 
have been a very cooperative process of discovery for everyone.

The original discoverer has rights. I've said it before , and I'll keep saying 
it ... 

It takes discoverers to make scientific discoveries. Doing science and making 
scientific discoveries is not a crime. There is a right to protect discoveries 
and intellectual property. 


"Contrary to their public image, scientists are normal, flawed human beings. 
They are as capable of prejudice, covetousness, pride, deceitfulness, etc., as 
anyone."
-- David Weatherall, "Conduct Unbecoming," American Scientist (Vol.93, 
January-February 2005), p.73
http://www.americanscientist.org/bookshelf/pub/conduct-unbecoming


 As it turns out I'm rather glad it happened the way it did. Nothing like 
purposeful road-blocks, gate-keeping, and disinformation thrown at me to 
motivate me to learn to how to do it myself. As the old adage goes, if you want 
something done right you have to  do it yourself. The Earth Sciences are my 
background. I have the prerequisite skills. It took time but I did it. I'm 
still learning. I never stop learning. I didn't do it in a vacuum. I had much 
help and assistance along the way, from very good, professional scientists and 
technicians who were very ethical and very knowledgeable and very helpful, and 
then they did their assigned jobs very professionally and willingly. One day 
when the story can be told completely in detail I will certainly call out 
personally all those who helped me. The others who didn't, I will anonymously 
thank for motivating me to learn meteoritics  and to learn to do it on my own. 
I have enjoyed the scientific process immensely. Much more to come. And I can 
prove what I know.

Why when making the discovery of meteorites in the field, why then give away 
the scientific analysis and identification process to another? Why not learn 
how to do it for yourself so that your knowledge of the science of meteoritics 
increases? Why give away that joy of this discovery process? Sure I understand 
that many can't do it or perhaps they aren't interested in the whole scientific 
process, but I am. Why not go after the full credit for the full discovery -- 
from the field, to the lab, all the way to the publication? Sure there are 
tests I cannot do, others will do these tests afterwards. However, it doesn't 
change the fact that I made this WR meteorite field discovery, and in the lab I 
proved they are meteorites, proved the petrology, and then proved the Parent 
Body of origin for this achondrite meteorite find. The PB is Mars. I was able 
to prove all of this first. Others will re-confirm second. And others will go 
much further thereafter. There is an incredible amount of pure science about 
Mars to learn from this full discovery. I would like to be intimately involved 
in that with my full discovery. I'm sure this US World Record Mars Meteorite 
Discovery will make many careers for many scientists for a long time to come.  
NASA Houston Space Command will have to add another adjacent building to 
Building 31, or at least expand, just to store the new Mars material. I have no 
doubt about that. 

If a tree falls in the forest and no-one is there to hear it or witness the 
event ... guess what it still fell! The event still happened and made a sound. 
Likewise the discovery of and the science of meteorites (meteoritics) still 
takes place outside of the formal controlling walls of The Meteoritical Society 
and official publication in The Bulletin. There will be time for that down the 
road.

When a World Record discovery occurs on this level, you do not give the keys 
away to the discovery. I have a right to guard my discovery and its full value 
to help the greatest number of people. It is possible to make incredible 
discoveries, do incredible and exciting science, and achieve social justice for 
many many people all at the same time. It's the right thing to do. I intend to 
do just that. There is a reason this discovery was given to me to make. Tikkun 
olam. Baruch HaShem. 



Glyn Howard 











    
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