John Reed wrote <<Is their a machine you can buy to test samples?>>
 
You are correct that Geology departments have neither the equipment nor the expertise to recognize and classify meteorites, in general.  This is very specialized and requires the skills (in some respects, almost an art) and experience of researchers who also have the necessary equipment.  The 'expert' can interpret a thin-section to determine the meteorite's petrologic type, but electron (ion) microprobes are also necessary to analyze its chemical makeup, such as its fayalite % (H, L, LL).  Furthermore, one has to know how to use said equipment and apply it to meteorites.  ( It not like just taking up a collection and buying a microprobe and reading a graph! )
 
The following is a description from the U.C.L.A. Geochemistry website: 
 
<<are operating a high resolution, high-sensitivity ion microprobe - the first of its kind in the western hemisphere>>

<<Chondritic meteorites are studied with petrographic, chemical and isotopic techniques ... Differentiated meteorites and lunar samples offer valuable comparisons for igneous processes in systems simpler than those occurring on Earth. Neutron activation is used to survey concentrations of trace elements, for example, noble metals near geological boundaries associated with inferred catastrophic impact events.>>

Ron Hartman

----- Original Message -----
From: John Reed
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Classic eBay M-Wrong

 

Ken , I think your making to big a deal out of this. Any serious person will check them out before spending a sizable amount of money You spent 40.00 on a phony
but, look what it got you your now an expert on the whole subject You know what they say  about guilt or innocence in the criminal justice system " Its better that
100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be found guilty " here's how that applies to meteorites  Its better that a 100 people buy a 40.00  fake than 1 real
meteorite be discarded  Also even fake meteorites can make people curious and genuinely interested which means your collection is worth more just by the amount
of that interest I am a licensed landscape contractor and guess what? I charge more because a lot of times  the unlicensed can't do the work therefor more work is
funneled to me more demand for a higher standard means more for $ me.  I think meteorites will naturally follow that same course and be found out in the end only
to the benefit of  the legitimate collector  I really think the focus should be on quicker and more  conclusive testing Universities are not well equiped for real testing
and I know by thier methods they are probably overlooking the most rarest type the low metals since they primarily test with a magnet  Where are all the private labs
hiding where you can pay and find out EXACTLY what you have? , they are out there but' their not set up for meteorite ID that well  Its not an easy process getting
a straight answer on a rock sample in fact its very difficult  it needs to be streamlined Is their a machine you can buy to test samples? shove it in like an oven turn a
dial out comes a print out of your samples enerts,  if there is I'm going to get one and start charging all those fakers 5$ each to conclusively absolutely, undeniably
certifiably identify their ?  I think ther could be a big demand  What do you think?    Also check this out,  this is what the universitiy called quartz let me know what
you think  http://www.FINDALLTRADES.COM/projects/Snowwhite.htm Thanks John
        Here's my quote
       "leave them alone, and they'll come home
     wagging their tales behind them"
                                   Little bo peep

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