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Hello Ken and list,
Thanks for all your investigative work Ken! It seems
like this seller is not simply misinformed or ignorant, but that they are being
blatantly dishonest and selling material as one thing, knowing full well that it
is not what they claim. It really is a shame that there are people like
this, because it reflects badly on legitimate and reputable dealers, and can
scare off new collectors and potential customers.
From what I remember when I visited the crater, you were not
permitted to take anything at all from the crater area. I may be
remembering wrong as this was about 10 years ago. Maybe someone else knows
more.
I thank you again for emailing j.c.z. inc on my behalf.
I agree that getting a flood of emails might give them a change of heart.
If anyone else cares to follow suit I would certainly not object! :
) Their email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am compiling my claim to the credit card company today
utilizing my own information plus lots of information and advice so generously
provided by list members. I believe I have responded personally to
everyone who offered advice and support, but if I have inadvertently forgotten
anyone, THANK YOU!!
As I said before, I will keep everyone posted on how this all
pans out. I probably will not know anything for a couple weeks....unless I
get an unexpected refund from j.c.z. But I'm not going to hold my breath
on that one!
Thanks again to all,
Jeannie Devon
IMCA #9236
The Museum Store/The Nature Source
Anchorage, AK
Jeannie,
I checked my emails. Not only has this person used the ID's
"j.c.z.inc","bubbamisen", but also as
"pahanaswife". Instead of email name " Judith McCabe,"
this person replied to me in Feb as Colin Scott. I am sure this is the
same person because the Link to the auction for "pahanaswife" now
shows the ID "j.c.z.inc". (Feb auction - 200
plus pieces meteorite ) This is one slippery person. When asked I about
the CD meteorites in Feb, I was told the light coloration was from dust as
they had not been cleaned. I then wrote back asking if he would
guarantee these as being metal (nickel/iron) , I have no record of a
reply.
Jeannie, I think the way to get this guy is his own reference to:
" It is forbidden to collect this material now after the federal
government slapped a irreplacable resourse label on it." I have always
thought that this regulation referred to core material and not oxide.
If so, he has trapped himself. However, I don't know where to get more info
on this. Perhaps the someone on the List knows?
I did write
"j.c.z.inc" (address - [EMAIL PROTECTED]) encouraging this
person to refund the monies only to get a harsh reply threatening to
sue me.( sound familiar?) Hopefully, others will write this
person.(Auction in dispute - Item #
1088285627 ) A large number of emails could have an attitude
adjusting effect.
Best,
Ken Newton
PS - This person also wrote
claiming to have 150 satisfied meteorite customers, yet he has only 16
feedbacks. Of those 16 only 3 are for Canyon Diablo Meteorites and of those
only 2 are different persons. Where are the other 148?
TMS/TNS/HRC wrote:
Hello list! First off, let me
thank again everyone who responded so quickly and thoughtfully to my
dilemma. I so much appreciate the kindness and generosity of this
list. What a great group of people! Since I have given the seller ample time to make good, and right
this situation to no avail I'm going to post all the details of the
transaction in hopes that no one else will run into the same
problems. The material is pale and orangy/tan
in color. Some pieces are slightly attracted to a magnet (but
obviously less than to a real CD), and others are not. They are
mostly rather flat and angular with many having a layered
appearance. The heft is also noticeably lighter than Canyon
Diablos. Yes, the purchase was made on
Ebay. The auction # is 1088285627 and is still available for
viewing. The title of the auction is "30+ Pieces of Canyon
Diablo Meteorite". As you can see, the photo is not the
best. I have been tracking the seller closely and they have not
posted any more "meteorite" auctions since the one I bought,
just garage sale junk. I would be very suprised if they are
members of this list, or of the "meteorite community" in
general. There were some auctions of this material sold before
mine, however. I do not recognize any of the bidders or winners of
these auctions but I am not really familiar with people's Ebay user
IDs. The user's name is Judith McCabe, with a
user ID of "j.c.z.inc". This is a new user ID. The
one in place for the sale of the "meteorite" material was
"bubbamisen". There was no return address on the box I
received in the mail, but the post mark was Oswego,
NY. After expressing my dissatisfaction and
wish to return the merchandise, this is the response I received from the
seller: "The items sent you are deffinetly canyon
diablo meteorite as listed in issue 5 of the meteorite encyclopedia. If
as you say you have indeed been a dealer you would know this. We have
over 150 satisfied customers with this material. And we can prove the
material was collected from the crater rim. " I
emailed back with a very straightforward and polite reply, explaining to
the best of my ability why I felt the material was misrepresented and
asking for an address to return the material. I received no
reply. If anyone has any knowledge of this
person, or this auction, or has had dealings with her please let me know
(on or offlist). I would be interested to know. I'll keep
everyone posted with what happens, just so you know. I'm also going to try to take some pictures this evening of the
material I was sent next to some known Canyon Diablos, and if I can get
a good image I will post it here so you can see it
firsthand.Thank you again everyone, and any more
replies I get will be most appreciated. Remember Ebayers, it's a jungle out there! :
) Regards to all,Jeannie
DevonIMCA #9236The Museum
Store/The Nature SourceAnchorage, AKwww.thenaturesource.com ______________________________________________
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