[meteorite-list] IMCA not INRMCA

[Rob Wesel]

I am afraid I am going to have to chime in with Ken and others here.   The International Non-Racist Meteorite Collectors Association needs to be at a separate URL, it really has nothing to do with the foundation of this organization. Just because the word international is included doesn't mean we all have to get along. I love Matteo, but his posts bug me, same with Arnold, and now Rhett.   Lists have rules, that's fine because they are usually owned by one person who calls the House Rules. Mr. Jones can write whatever rules he wants, it's his deal. The IMCA is our deal. It was a bigger deal than joining a chat room in that we all joined en masse upon review and after team construction/approval of it's policies.   Now I see the emergence of a single moderator adding, as he sees fit, any policy he wants without consent of the members of the organization. If this was a decision of the board then I stand corrected, and still protest the decision.   The truth, meteorite distribution is a predominately testosterone driven ego challenge, dealers don't always get along. Our list is never the right place for this but it usually goes away. Very few ever get kicked off or even put on probation, and here Arnold is singled out even after his post was prematurely deleted.   As much as I dread the daily ads, I think Arnold should be left to do as he does. Remember how pissed we got at Mohammad, Steve Arnold From Chicago is mild by comparison.   Leave the IMCA to meteorites, not politics and remember that there is a board to decide such matters. Yes, the IMCA list is not a place for flame wars, or sales pitches, that's clear, but Jesus Rhett...do you read every post before sending it along or were you singling out Arnold well before that to have blasted his posts before they could ever be seen?   Matteo, sorry you were offended, but deal with it. Rhett, take it down a notch. Steve, just....oh...do what you have to do. The ink has worn off my delete key.   We're eight months in on the IMCA and it seems to be working, Rhett's contribution is appreciated, lets not revert back to bickering, martyrdom and chaos but instead keep it simple, protect buyers when possible and inform the public as we have been doing.   -- Rob Wesel # 9275 ------------------ We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971       ----- Original Message ----- From: magellon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS Rhett, I am even more confused? Steve said "pisano" in a private e-mail that Matteo made public... Then Steve admits his mistake to you privately,  and you then teach him a lesson by  putting  him on "probation"? Does he still receive posts from the IMCA group site? Or did you stop those? If he admitted he was mad and wrong, why punish him? He's not racist - He was just being mad and wrong. Rhett, I may not know the whole story but I know this was between two people. Why are you bringing the IMCA into this? To establish "peace" is NOT a good reason. The IMCA is for the authenticity of meteorites "period". Are things more peaceful now? You know as well as anyone  that people get mad and say things they should not. First, it is up to the two individuals to try to straighten things out on their own. It saddens me that you say you would do it again. Rhett, this appears not be a matter of racism but more an excuse to push someone around  you admittedly don't like. No? Just substitute any other big dealer in Steve's place. If Mike Farmer (not picking on you Mike :>) had said this to Matteo,  would you have reacted the same way? If you answer "yes," then why haven't you in the past? You can not force people to be nice but they can learn from your good example. You have kindly and privately reproved me when I broke IMCA rules. So, I know you can create a harmonious environment when you try without changing the path of IMCA. I could not understand from your comment if the board had any say so in the new change to IMCA or not? It sounded as if you did it on your own. Does the board no longer make these type of policy changing decisions? Please don't start talking about quitting like you did before. We all appreciate your past achievements. But, If you are serious (which I doubt),  I will be glad accept the position. (thank you) Best case scenario,  I would share it with Jake Delgato or another member) Thanks, Ken Newton    How fights get started #9632