Come on, Elton,
    Don't hold back. How do you REALLY feel?
    Michael 

on 8/25/02 1:20 PM, EL Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've saved this message for a while hoping that you'd change and abide
> by your past assurances to this list that you'd tone it down but I am
> now outraged and livid at your disrespect for my time and your wholly
> selfish actions. Contrary to your beliefs  there are actually other
> subjects this list is for. I loathe that one of them is to chastise an
> alleged adult that delights in playing the victim while setting up the
> rescue--whatever it takes to stay in the foreground of attention. It
> makes me dirty to even address it. Some people need to be shamed/shunned
> as part of their codependency cycle so they can do it all over again.
> This isn't  a forum for your personal problems. Steve on one hand I
> think you are overall a good person that would like to make a
> contribution to our hobby.  Then another email arrives...Just call me
> PTSD  but you then perrish that belief I have in you.
> 
> Mr. Steve"Let Me Know" Arnold in Chicago  --I don't think anyone can let
> you "know"-- But I'll try.--personally and publicly to denounce your
> presence on the list in the way  you are persently operating........ I
> am annoyed and appalled at your arrogance and oblivious disregard for
> the majority of folks this list. So with apologies to those folks.....
> 
> Take your *&*%#@(@#& Ring and associated barrage of "spam-like" messages
> and put it where the sun don't shine--anywhere you like-- but keep it
> out of  my face every day. Your sale is a sham and you are desperate to
> unload apparently worthless material. If it were not so  we'd not be
> having this conversation and I'd not have a dozen emails about your
> "sale". Any potential clients have shunned you by virtue of their
> unwillingness to buy from you outright.  So you chase and to punish them
> for not respecting you as a "dealer".  You want a shortcut ride to the
> top...  Try it the old fashion way and earn it.
> 
> You say you'll be out all day but, before we can relax you are back with
> another message. Day in and Day out you show us you haven't a clue about
> being a businessman little alone a meteorite expert.  You apologize your
> hinnie off for your abuses yet, you continue them within a few days.
> Maybe I am missing something here but your emails and your actions don't
> agree with each other. If you really cared for this list, as you have
> "groveled" on more than one occasion,  you'd respect it more and live by
> your words, I should think.
> 
> What would our mail boxes be if each (ahem)  "dealer" (rolling eyes),
> posted every minor event, to let us know about each specimen they had
> "sold". I am waiting for your message that you've gone to the bathroom
> in case that lone purchase email arrives while you are in the toilet.
> HINT: I think most dealers update their web page to reflect that the
> item is "sold". Rarely do they announce a "sold" unless it is an item of
> extraoridinary interest --I don't see that applying to your sale .  I
> challenge you to set up your own email group like other meteorite
> dealers do in order to keep their clients informed. Then again  you'll
> might have only have one subscriber ....
> 
> You continue to confuse words in your emails.  SPAM is Unsolicited
> Commercial Email sent to vast numbers of people to find a lone sucker.
> IT is sent in disregard for the time and enjoyment of others--it is in
> a word--selfish. Your advertisements meet that criteria to be called
> SPAM.  But unlike you--  no one here is SPAMMING you. We are starting to
> FLAME you.  It does no good for one adult to chastise another adult in a
> moderate tone--  it takes a down right direct and harsh confrontation.
> 
> Before you compose one of your private posts to me citing free speech,
> etc.--Don't get free speech and free enterprise confused with overriding
> our freedoms to associate with those we choose. And don't get the good
> graces of the members of this list be mistaken for approval of your
> indulgences i.e. "repetitive inappropriate attempts to draw attention".
> They are in whole a very forgiving accommodating group. Out of principle
> they defended you without the facts at hand when you "let it slip" that
> someone called you names.  One more thing, as evidenced by your sales
> record and desperate discounts  --DON'T get yourself confused with a
> meteorite dealer, either.
> 
> In my own whinny defense I am disrespecting Steve becasue he has
> repeatedly disrespected me--I am allowed under his standards to
> interpret his emails however I'd like. He has asked for feedback.  If
> any of you other armchair-lawyer, bleeding-hearts, "Friends Feeling
> Sorry for Steve", "Free Speech yada yada","Who made you our spokesman?"
> personalities now viewing this flame,  think I am out of line;  there is
> a list called "meteorite noise@yahoo" and I'll be happy to debate it
> there no holds or worlds barred. Be forwarned my initial response is
> going to be "BITE ME"in case you want to save yourself the time of
> composing your argument and save band width. I am feed up with having
> these wars here.  And Steve --no phoney extra yahoo email addresses to
> pretend to be someone else this time.
> 
> In the most assuredly sincere sentiments,
> Elton "Regards" Jones
> 
> 
> 
> 
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