I think I remember a piece of Challenger on ebay a few months ago.. Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Francis Graham'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] UFO Commentary, Nicht Verboten.
> I've definitely seen a piece of one of the Salyut platforms for sale. I > think it might have been Salyut 7 but it was quite some time ago, in fact > I'm sure the link for it was posted on the list. > > Remember that there is only recoverable debris from large platforms and > generally these are de-orbited to dump in the ocean. It's only when it goes > wrong that Australia or Argentina gets an unexpected visitor. > > Jon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Francis Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 25 September 2002 15:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [meteorite-list] UFO Commentary, Nicht Verboten. > > > Dear List, > From the outset, let me say I do not think there > is any reliable evidence that there are > extraterrestrial intelligent visitors (ALH 84001's > possible microfossils sure didn't look like they were > intelligent). > Having said that, there are still mysteries to be > solved connected with what is called the "UFOs", more > on the social and political side rather than > scientific, and these mysteries directly relate to > meteorites. For example, although the United States > and Russia signed a treaty agreeing to return each > others' crashed spacecraft, has there been any > instance of that between 1963 and 1988? Recall the > story given to the press after the Kecksburg PA "UFO > crash": it was a meteorite they placed on the flatbed > truck. Yet, do any of you have a 1 g slice of Keckburg > to sell? Is it in any catalog of meteorites? > Further, recovery teams were thorough. How many > spacecraft debris pieces are on the market from > spacecraft which crashed between 63-85? Skylab is the > only one I recall. > Suppose we tentatively advance the hypothesis that > UFOs offered a great cover for two cold war > superpowers to circumvent a treaty which they had > signed, in order to examine and evaluate each others' > space technology with national security purposes > (possibly justifiable) in mind. The fact that it was a > treaty violation meant that such operations had to be > done in great secrecy. > One book outlines some of these operations under the > code names Moon Dust and Blue Fly (the name of the > book is not with me at the moment). But it didn't give > a lot of checkable facts or references, so I didn't > know how reliable it was from a scientific-historical > point of view, which is probably why it was forgotten. > In any case, in true Popperian style, this > hypothesis is on the target range to be falsified. > Does anybody have parts of spacecraft, except Skylab, > that crashed between 1963 and 1988 and were recovered > by civilians? How do spacecraft parts recovered by > civilians in those years, if any, compare with the > prevalence of spacecraft debris sold on e-bay etc > today? > > Francis Graham > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
