Hey Ken

  I know they are, who going to spend 8 hours a day sending virus out for
free. All I want to do is to expose it and hope something come of it. It
take a lot of my time. First I have to wait for Norton to tell me the email
has a virus then I need to delete it. Before I do that I put a block on that
address. But they just keep coming with different addresses.

  Kim

----- Original Message -----
From: magellon
To: azaware ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Norton behide the Virus


Kim,
I took Norton's " test drive" virus protection program which required giving
my email address.
My system had no viruses. The day before  the test drive was up,
I get mysteriously bombarded with anonymous virus laden emails every day for
a week.
( Looked like spam but was addressed only to my email address )
I agree with you, Norton was behind this!
I vowed then and there not to buy their product!
Best,
Ken Newton


----- Original Message -----
From: "azaware" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Norton behide the Virus


> I have outlook express and I get about 5 emails a day with virus. I get
> them every way you can think of. I'm getting these one emails
Undeliverable
> mail. As far as I can see it looks like I'm sending them and then they
come
> back to me saying that it couldn't be sent, with the virus.  Then to top
it
> off you can't email them back to give them a few words. Norton has to
behind
> this, who else is making out.  Norton paying these guys to this. If they
> were just sending here and there I could understand, but this is a full
time
> job. Who's getting rich. The more computers they can infect the more money
> they make. Norton is a growing company, are they just going to sit there
and
> hope some lunatics send out viruses. What if they stopped sending viruses,
> then Norton would go out of business. Are they going to sit there and wait
> to go out of business? I don't think so. I've seen fad come and go and
they
> usually go, but this fad just keeps getting bigger. You can bank on it,
> there behind this. Also its always a virus Norton can fix.
>
> Been hit with a meteorite and lived.
>   Kim
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Gore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:25 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Virus
>
>
> > Sounds to me like you got a bad one! There has got to be some way to fix
> > this. If I just knew what it was doing. They ought to lock them virus
> people
> > up!!
> >
> >
> > Jonathan M. Gore
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart & Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jonathan Gore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
> >
> >
> > | Hi,   System restore does not work,   I have reinstalled Norton
> countless
> > | times today and it will not work,   Norton can't find the virus
> > definitions
> > | upon start up, I called Symantec they said that the registry info has
> been
> > | compromised.Scan disk finds no errors either.
> > |    It seems everything else works just fine, But without a virus
scanner
> > and
> > | it missed this one anyway...................   I have tried to fix
this
> > for
> > | 2 days now , I am pretty mad at this point, Damn people have nothing
> > better
> > | to do except screw with everybodys computers.    I really have no Idea
> > what
> > | to do at this point ?     Steven
> > | ----- Original Message -----
> > | From: "Jonathan Gore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | To: "Steven Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:59 PM
> > | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
> > |
> > |
> > | > I'm sorry you got the virus. This sounds like one of those virus
that
> > | > attacks the virus program along with other files. I manually removed
> my
> > | > virus, I don't how good you are at programming, but that is what I
> would
> > | > suggest. But I guess that doesn't help now. Does your computer has a
> > | system
> > | > restore point? That is probably what it will take to fix it now. Or
> > maybe
> > | > you need to reinstall Norton. Have you tried restarting your
computer?
> > | What
> > | > does Norton say when you try to run it? Let me know because a
computer
> > | with
> > | > virus protection is like a human with an immune system. Don't these
> > people
> > | > who make virus have something better to do?
> > | >
> > | >
> > | > Jonathan M. Gore
> > | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart & Albert Einstein
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | >
> > | > Jonathan M. Gore
> > | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart & Albert Einstein
> > | > ----- Original Message -----
> > | > From: "Steven Drummond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > To: "Jonathan Gore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:51 PM
> > | > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
> > | >
> > | >
> > | > | Hi Jonathan,    Please tell me what you had to do when your system
> was
> > | > | sending out all those emails to fix it,  There was a virus in them
> and
> > | it
> > | > | got into my computes , I have removed this virus but I am having
> > trouble
> > | > | with trying to get Norton running again, It has done something
that
> > will
> > | > not
> > | > | allow me to run my virus program.   The virus name is  Js.Gigger.a
> I
> > | > found
> > | > | the tool in symantic website and removed the virus.    Any Help ?
> > | > |     Regards, Steven Drummond
> > | > | ----- Original Message -----
> > | > | From: "Jonathan Gore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:15 AM
> > | > | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
> > | > |
> > | > |
> > | > | > I saw 300 meters at 1045-1100 UT  here on the east coast. For
some
> > | > bizarre
> > | > | > reason it was clear while most the east coast was rainy. There
> > wasn't
> > | > one
> > | > | > cloud in the sky! Perfect conditions!!
> > | > | >
> > | > | >
> > | > | > Jonathan M. Gore
> > | > | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > | > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > | > The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart & Albert Einstein
> > | > | > ----- Original Message -----
> > | > | > From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | > To: "Jonathan Gore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:01 PM
> > | > | > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
> > | > | >
> > | > | >
> > | > | > | Dear Johathan and List;
> > | > | > | Last year...predictions high, weather so so, out to my
favorite
> > site
> > | @
> > | > | > | 0100 (am).  I see a dozen or so in about a five minute
> period,some
> > | > | > | magnificent shots, it's on the beginning of the show and .....
> > | dash
> > | > | > | the luck, Clouds...end of show, sprinkles, light rain.  It was
> > worth
> > | > the
> > | > | > | trip but besure to pray for no clouds and clear skies.
> > | > | > | Best leonoids,
> > | > | > | Dave Freeman
> > | > | > |
> > | > | > | Jonathan Gore wrote:
> > | > | > |
> > | > | > | >Remember that these figures are very rough. The number seen
> > varies
> > | > from
> > | > | > | >person to person. They are often inaccurate. But they do give
a
> > | very
> > | > | good
> > | > | > | >idea of what to expect.
> > | > | > | >
> > | > | > | >
> > | > | > | >Jonathan M. Gore
> > | > | > | >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > | > | >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | > | > | >The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart & Albert Einstein
> > | > | > | >----- Original Message -----
> > | > | > | >From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | > | >To: "Meteorite Mailing List"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > | > | > | >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:34 AM
> > | > | > | >Subject: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
> > | > | > | >
> > | > | > | >
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|
> > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm
> > | > | > | >| Meteor Storm Forecast
> > | > | > | >| NASA Science News
> > | > | > | >| October 9, 2002
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| NASA scientists have just released new predictions for the
> 2002
> > | > | Leonid
> > | > | > | >| meteor storm.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| A New Mexican desert. A graveyard in West Virginia. The
> > | > | > | >| International Space Station (ISS). What do these places
have
> in
> > | > | common?
> > | > | > | >| Experts say they're good spots to watch the 2002 Leonid
> meteor
> > | > storm,
> > | > | > | >which
> > | > | > | >| is expected this year on Nov. 19th.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| "We've calculated meteor rates for 58 cities around the
world
> > and
> > | > for
> > | > | > the
> > | > | > | >| space station," says Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space
Flight
> > | > Center's
> > | > | > | >Space
> > | > | > | >| Environments Team. "People who live in North America or
> Europe
> > or
> > | > | > onboard
> > | > | > | >| the ISS are going to see a lot of Leonids next month."
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Leonid meteor storms happen when Earth plows through clouds
> of
> > | > dusty
> > | > | > | >debris
> > | > | > | >| shed by comet 55/P Tempel-Tuttle. Right now Earth is
heading
> > for
> > | > two
> > | > | > such
> > | > | > | >| clouds. "We'll collide with both of them on Tuesday, Nov.
> > 19th,"
> > | > says
> > | > | > | >Cooke.
> > | > | > | >| "The first cloud will cause a flurry of meteors over Europe
> at
> > | > about
> > | > | > 0400
> > | > | > | >| UT. We expect sky watchers in the countryside (away from
> bright
> > | > city
> > | > | > | >lights)
> > | > | > | >| to see between 500 and 1000 Leonids per hour."
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Earth will plow into the second cloud about six hours later
> > (1030
> > | > UT
> > | > | or
> > | > | > | >5:30
> > | > | > | >| a.m. EST) and cause an even bigger outburst over North
> America.
> > | > | > "Observers
> > | > | > | >| here in the United States could see as many as 2000 per
> hour,"
> > he
> > | > | > | >predicts.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Other parts of the world will be sprinkled with Leonids,
too,
> > but
> > | > | > nothing
> > | > | > | >| like Europe or North America. If the predictions are
correct,
> > | > | observers
> > | > | > in
> > | > | > | >| Asia, Australia, South America and much of Africa will
count
> no
> > | > more
> > | > | > than
> > | > | > | >a
> > | > | > | >| few dozen bright meteors in a one-hour span.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|                     2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Predictions
> > | > | > | >|        Click on the name of the city nearest your hometown.
> > | > [sample]
> > | > | > | >|                  U.S. Cities                  Around the
> World
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Albuquerque,    Minneapolis,    Aberdeen,
Mexico
> > | City,
> > | > | > | >|        NM              MN              Scotland
Mexico
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Anchorage, AK   New Orleans,    Amsterdam, the
> Moscow,
> > | > Russia
> > | > | > | >|                        LA              Netherlands
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Atlanta, GA     New York, NY    Bangkok,
> Nairobi,
> > | > Kenya
> > | > | > | >|                                        Thailand
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Bangor, ME      Omaha, NE       Beijing, China  New
> > Delhi,
> > | > | > | >|
India
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Boise, ID       Philadelphia,   Cairo, Egypt
Paris,
> > | > France
> > | > | > | >|                        PA
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Boston, MA      Phoenix, AZ     Dublin,
Perth,
> > | > | > | >|                                        Ireland
> > Australia
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Chicago, IL     Portland, OR    Edinburgh,
> > Reykjavik,
> > | > | > | >|                                        Scotland
> Iceland
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|                                                        Rio
de
> > | > | > | >|        Cleveland, OH   Raleigh, NC     Frankfurt,
> Janeiro,
> > | > | > | >|                                        Germany
> > | > | > | >|
Brazil
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Denver, CO      Sacramento, CA  Hong Kong
Rome,
> > | Italy
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Detroit, MI     Salt Lake       Istanbul,
> > Santiago,
> > | > | > | >|                        City, UT        Turkey
Chile
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Honolulu, HI    Seattle, WA     Jakarta,        S�o
> > Paulo,
> > | > | > | >|                                        Indonesia
Brazil
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Houston, TX     St. Louis, MO   Jerusalem,
Seoul,
> > | South
> > | > | > | >|                                        Israel
Korea
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Las Vegas, NV   Washington,     Johannesburg,
> > Stockholm,
> > | > | > | >|                        D.C.            South Africa
Sweden
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|        Los Angeles,                    London,
> > | > | > | >|        CA              Wichita, KS     England
Tokyo,
> > | Japan
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >|
coming
> > | soon:
> > | > | > | >|        Miami, FL       .               Manila, the
> Canadian
> > | > | > | >|                                        Philippines
> > | > | > | >|
cities
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Above: Bill Cooke of the NASA/MSFC Space Environments Group
> > | > prepared
> > | > | > these
> > | > | > | >| city-by-city forecasts of Leonid activity in 2002. The
> colored
> > | > curves
> > | > | > | >denote
> > | > | > | >| predictions by three teams (Asher-McNaught, Jenniskens,
> > | > Lyytinen-Van
> > | > | > | >| Flandern) who successfully forecast the 2001 storm. Note
that
> > the
> > | > | rates
> > | > | > | >| (vertical axis) correspond to 15-minute intervals; also,
all
> > | times
> > | > | > | >| (horizontal axis) are local--that is, the time in the city
> > | > specified.
> > | > | > | >[more]
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Although millions of people will experience either the
> European
> > | > | > outburst
> > | > | > | >or
> > | > | > | >| the North American outburst, only three people will see
both:
> > the
> > | > | crew
> > | > | > of
> > | > | > | >| the International Space Station.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| "The ISS will be flying over Europe during the first
> outburst,"
> > | > | > explains
> > | > | > | >Rob
> > | > | > | >| Suggs, leader of the Space Environments Team. "Then it will
> > pass
> > | > over
> > | > | > | >North
> > | > | > | >| America during the second outburst. Perfect timing!"
> Astronauts
> > | > | looking
> > | > | > | >out
> > | > | > | >| the station's windows could spot more meteors than anyone
> else.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Meteor watching from the space station isn't like meteor
> > watching
> > | > | from
> > | > | > the
> > | > | > | >| ground. On Earth we look up to see shooting stars. On the
ISS
> > | they
> > | > | look
> > | > | > | >| down. That's because meteoroids glow when they disintegrate
> in
> > | > | Earth's
> > | > | > | >| atmosphere at an altitude of about 80 km. The ISS orbits
> Earth
> > | > about
> > | > | > 300
> > | > | > | >km
> > | > | > | >| higher than that, so from the point of view of an astronaut
> > | meteors
> > | > | > appear
> > | > | > | >| underfoot. (Astronaut Frank Culbertson described his
> experience
> > | > | > watching
> > | > | > | >the
> > | > | > | >| 2001 Leonids from the ISS in Science@NASA's "Space Station
> > Meteor
> > | > | > | >Shower.")
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Observers on the ISS and on Earth will be equally bothered
> > during
> > | > | this
> > | > | > | >| year's shower by a glaring full Moon. "Moonlight will
reduce
> > the
> > | > | number
> > | > | > of
> > | > | > | >| Leonids seen by some factor between 2 and 5," says Cooke.
"We
> > | took
> > | > | this
> > | > | > | >into
> > | > | > | >| account when we calculated our forecasts."
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Along the east coast of North America, the meteor outburst
> will
> > | > | happen
> > | > | > | >just
> > | > | > | >| before local dawn. "That's good," says Suggs, "because at
> that
> > | time
> > | > | of
> > | > | > | >| night, the Moon will be low in the western sky. Try to find
a
> > | dark
> > | > | > | >observing
> > | > | > | >| site where the Moon sets early behind tall buildings or
> > | surrounding
> > | > | > | >hills."
> > | > | > | >| A country graveyard, say, in one of the mountainous
> Appalachian
> > | > | states
> > | > | > | >might
> > | > | > | >| be an ideal spot, he laughs.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| In Europe and in western parts of North America, the Moon
> will
> > be
> > | > | high
> > | > | > in
> > | > | > | >| the sky when the Leonids arrive. "That's not so good," he
> says.
> > | > | > Moonlight
> > | > | > | >| scattered from air molecules and aerosols (e.g., water
> > droplets,
> > | > dust
> > | > | > and
> > | > | > | >| pollution) makes the air glow and interferes with meteor
> > | watching.
> > | > | The
> > | > | > | >glow
> > | > | > | >| will be less in places where the air is dry and
> pollution-free.
> > | > Suggs
> > | > | > | >| recommends traveling to the desert, if possible, or to a
> > mountain
> > | > | which
> > | > | > | >| rises above the local aerosol layer. "A desert mountaintop
> > would
> > | be
> > | > | the
> > | > | > | >| perfect combination," he says.
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| Indeed, that's where Suggs is going, to the Sacramento
> > Mountains
> > | of
> > | > | > | >southern
> > | > | > | >| New Mexico. He's leading a team there to record the North
> > | American
> > | > | > | >outburst
> > | > | > | >| using image-intensified video cameras. "Our job," explains
> > Suggs,
> > | > "is
> > | > | > to
> > | > | > | >| improve meteoroid activity forecasts for spacecraft.
> Observing
> > | > these
> > | > | > | >showers
> > | > | > | >| from Earth helps refine our models." Suggs will also have
> teams
> > | in
> > | > | > Spain,
> > | > | > | >| Alabama, the Canary Islands and Arizona, "so we'll be able
to
> > | > monitor
> > | > | > both
> > | > | > | >| peaks."
> > | > | > | >|
> > | > | > | >| "I'd rather watch the shower from the ISS," allows Suggs,
but
> > it
> > | > | could
> > | > | > be
> > | > | > | >| worse: New Mexico is ones of the best places on Earth to
see
> > the
> > | > 2002
> > | > | > | >| Leonids, and "it beats a graveyard any day."
> > | > | > | >|
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