Greetings Paul, Jim and List, I have not as of yet read all of the responses to this issue, but I agree completely with Mark's sentiments. This is truly a sad situation and I also implore Jim and Paul to reconsider their decision. I am not a big dealer nor neccesarly what might be considered a big buyer, but rather just one of the many small collectors and lovers of these magnificent "rocks from space".
Paul and Mark, I want you to know that your contributions to the meteorite community have, as I'm sure you already know gone "above and beyond the call". Your online magazine has been an irreplaceable source of information and knowledge. It's loss, under these circumstances is inexcusable. (I speak here to those "dealers" responsible). I've been collecting meteorites for a little over four years and have for the last eight months been saving my nickels and dimes and planning my first trip to Tuscon. Again, I'm not a "mover and shaker", but, this being my first opportunity to be there, I plan on flinging a considerable amount of $$ at the Tucson show and rest assured, NOT ONE DIME of my hard earned money will be seen by any dealer responsible for this tragic loss. I apologize to the List if any consider this to be "off topic". In my honest opinion this is about as ON TOPIC as it gets. There is about to be a horrible loss to the meteorite community and once again egos and agendas are at the very heart of the matter. This is truly a sad affair. Again I apologize for my ramblings but this whole thing really gripes my ass. For the dealer/dealer's responsible, please see Mark's comments for more complete details. Steve --- Mark Miconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such petty little things, these people that would kill something so > valuable > due to their own vanity. I have no idea what caused the > fight/problem, but > feel if the parties causing the problem would SIMPLY PULL THEIR OWN > HEADS > OUT OF THEIR ASSES, the world might be a better place. Someone > needs to post > a sign for this list that says: > > CHECK YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR UPON ENTERING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I have been a member of this list for about 3 years, lived through > the name > calling and arguments about so many stupid petty things. I too have > opened > my mouth only to put both feet in at times. > > The MeteoriteTimes was one of the best things to come out of this > ragtag > group of all knowing egomaniacs in the past 3 years of my existence > here, > along with the IMCA, which by the way was also almost killed by > more > STUPIDITY. > > I loved the MeteoriteTimes, so did my 8 year old son as did many > others on > this list. Such a shame that a few so called "DEALERS" again can, > with > malice and nothing but self centered bullshit drive something good > from the > group. > > Paul and Jim Please reconsider. I am not even totally sure what the > argument > is all about, or who did what to whom or why it was done or what > started the > whole thing in the first place, I just do not want to see the end > of The > MeteoriteTimes and hope that you may reconsider. > > Maybe if you make the readers aware that some articles are the sole > work and > responsibility of the writer and not necessarily the opinion or > endorsed by > the editors it will help. If someone wants to contribute in a > manner that > may/will cause a problem then they should be REQUIRED to post their > VALID > email address in the article and those that are unhappy with what > they say > can flame the writer and not the publishers. > > Whomever is responsible for this lack of sense to cause this much > grief the > Jim and Paul would end this project you should be ashamed of > yourself/selves. > > Again I ask you both to reconsider and continue the project. I > would be glad > to help in any way that I can be of any assistance. I know some > HTML, I can > read and use a spellchecker and have some free time in the evenings > being > self employed. > > Whomever started this and caused the end of the MeteoriteTimes you > owe > everyone on this list AN APOLOGY and most of all you OWE A BIGGER > APOLOGY to > Jim and Paul. GET A FREAKIN' GRIP ON YOURSELF/SELVES. Last time I > looked the > universe was not revolving around any particular human and it is > wrong for > you to think it is revolving around you. > > Anyone that takes any particular offense to my opinions stated in > this email > can kiss my *ss. I am so tired of so many petty little things > causing the > end or near end of the good things that come out of this list. I am > tired of > the few ruining things for the many. I am tired of having to delete > the > annual flame wars and name calling sessions that seem to sprout on > an all > too regular basis. > > I am only hours from Tucson and was actually thinking of driving > down this > year to see what it is all about. Now I wonder if it is all worth > the > effort, will there be all of this petty crap there too? > > Anyone unhappy with my opinions may email me DIRECTLY, do not waste > the time > of the others on the list if all you need to do is complain to me. > > Jim, Paul and anyone I may have left out that was producing the > MeteoriteTimes....PLEASE, PLEASE RECONSIDER. If I can help just > ask. > > Thanks for listening, > > Mark M. > Phoenix AZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:48 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] The Death Of A Dream > > > > Dear List and MT Writers, > > > > I just got off the phone with Jim and I regret to inform you that > > MeteoriteTimes.com died tonight. > > > > We had a dream of giving back to the meteorite community some of > what we > > have received. Jim and > > I spent much of what little free time we had on producing the > > magazine. What we lacked was the > > time it takes to police each and every word, each and every > picture, each > > and every link. We lacked > > the time and clairvoyance to realize when material was not > mentioned. > > > > We did not spend our free time and creative energies to be spoken > to as we > > have been. > > We did not spend our free time and creative energies to cause > infighting > > between others. > > We did not spend our free time and creative energies to have to > bother the > > list with e-mails like this. > > > > To the vast majority who will miss the magazine, I truly > apologize and I'm > > sorry. > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ===== Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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