.....In any case I dont really care about those statistics. What motivates me 
is my own conclusion.....

That pretty much sums it up Mohamed. 

--
Rob Wesel
> Rob wrote:
> >This is my last attempt to appeal to your sense of mathematical
> >reality. ...> message bellow
> 
> Well, first I dont trust LOGIC, specially when it is based on statistical 
> data.
> Logic is the tool of mind, and mind can be handicaped; because it looks (and 
> think it over) through the narrow windows of senses.
> One should better trust his heart that sums up all the data and reach a 
> conclusion in not time.
> If you know Arabic I would send you a copy of my book "the journey of the 
> heart", (http://www.alifyaa.com/dkai/book.asp?bn=2199) to tell you more on 
> why and how to use your heart as a more sperior tool.
> But let me come back to your mathmetical SICK logic:
> It is sick simply because you missed out a very important point and that is 
> the distribution of Lunars over regions.
> You know that when a large meteor hit the Moon it caused millions of tons of 
> ejectea to flee from the Moon gravity to be seized by the earth.
> And though most of the material will burn in the atmosphere but some of it 
> will reach the Earth. This small portion that reach the earth will not be 
> distributed hymogensouly.
> You can find this out by calculating the number of Lunars found per region. 
> If you do that you will find as you already know that almost 50% of Lunars 
> were found in Oman. At the same time very few non-Lunars are from Oman.
> I will leave the numbers for you, but the difference is quite clear.
> Now loggically this means that if you find a meteorite in Oman, the 
> probability of its being a Lunar is NOT (total number of lunars/total number 
> of meteortes) but it is: (total number of lunars found in Oman/total number 
> of meteortes found in Oman).
> If you do the calculation you will find that there is a great chance that 
> what I found are Lunars.
> In any case I dont really care about those statistics. What motivates me is 
> my own conclusion that is based on solid visual evidence.
> If there is 99% possibility that I what I am showing are meteorites you 
> still have the right to say there are not, but on the other hand; if there 
> is 1% possibility that they are I also have the right to keep investigating.
> I am not an idiot as you may think that I am spending my holiday every year 
> in addition to lots of efforts and money if I dont have good reasons for 
> that.
> 
> My hope was not based on the replies I got from this list though some of 
> them were encouraging. But my hope was based first on my moderate experience 
> so far in addition to what the people who have tested most of the known 
> Lunars said: "This is an intriguing rock. I cannot say that it is not a 
> lunar meteorite.
> 
> I will not give up because of some discouraging replies from some members of 
> this list or because of your sick mathematical logic. With all my respect to 
> the useful and kind advice of others.
> 
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Mohamed H. Yousef
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 'M Yousef' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,    
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Enough with the moon and Mars rocks...
> >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:50:05 -0800
> >
> >Mohamed,
> >
> >This is my last attempt to appeal to your sense of mathematical
> >reality.  You wrote:
> >
> > > No, this rock in particular is not magnetic at all. I have another
> > > suspected lunar breccia (http://www.alifyaa.com/meteorite/ln3/) where
> > > the bulk is very little magnetic but not the clasts.
> >
> > > ... I thank all those who replied, this seem the first find that
> > > gave me some hope, let us wait and see the results of tests.
> >
> >I want you to consider the comparative numbers of lunar and Martian
> >meteorites that have been found vs. all other types combined.  I'm
> >not sure what the most up-to-date statistics are, but somewhere in the
> >ballpark of 1 in 500 meteorites is lunar or Martian.  It is extremely
> >unrealistic to assume that your very first meteorite find will be
> >of this type.  You would need to find roughly 346 meteorites before
> >you'd have even a 50-50 chance that one of them was either lunar or
> >Martian.
> >
> >This doesn't even factor in the comparitive difficulty of recognizing
> >a lunar or Martian rock vs. recognizing a chondrite.  Chondrites
> >without fusion crusts can still be recognized fairly easily in most
> >cases; not so lunars and Martians.  Given that you haven't found a
> >single chondrite yet, it is presumptious in the extreme to think that
> >you have magically acquired the skills necessary to find something
> >far far rarer.
> >
> >Show me a chondrite.  Until you do, it is ridiculous to mention
> >achondrites.
> >
> >--Rob
> 
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